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Post by Johnuready Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:13 pm

My conclusion:

1) My 2011 Broadway has no float switch
2) My solenoid valve works from the pressure switch only.

The reason why others have posted they think their valve is always open, it's not working correctly and faulty.

A valve that is faulty will open under mains pressure with no power to the solenoid, its forces the valve flap open and allows a fast fill. If you are the filling with the faulty solenoid and put power on the coil, the flap part opens and restricts the flow ie a slow fill.

I have removed the valve and cleaned it completely, its stilll works as a faulty valve. Must be the seal around the flap perhaps.

The reason why the valve allows water through from the mains water is the pressure that opens the valve. The reason why I have a slow fill from my whale roller ball pump is that the pressure is much lower.

Im taking my solenoid out and putting 12 volts directly to the Wale filler allowing the roller ball to work and mains pressure connection will work ok.
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Post by Caraman Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:26 pm

Johnuready wrote:
Im taking my solenoid out and putting 12 volts directly to the Wale filler allowing the roller ball to work and mains pressure connection will work ok.
This seems the right thing to do especially if there is no float valve.  It should increase the life of the Whale pump if it's not pushing against a half open valve and a clogged filter.
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Post by Caraman Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:25 am

Just noticed a small consequence of removing the solenoid valve.  If the whale pump is switched off at the control panel or float valve if there is one, but it is left connected to the whale inlet socket, water can syphon out of the fresh water tank back through the pump.  This is remedied by removing the pump from the inlet socket when it is not being used which is a normal thing to do.  The same would apply if a hose pipe is left connected to the inlet after it has been disconnected from the mains supply.
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Post by Johnuready Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:44 am

Caraman wrote:Just noticed a small consequence of removing the solenoid valve.  If the whale pump is switched off at the control panel or float valve if there is one, but it is left connected to the whale inlet socket, water can syphon out of the fresh water tank back through the pump.  This is remedied by removing the pump from the inlet socket when it is not being used which is a normal thing to do.  The same would apply if a hose pipe is left connected to the inlet after it has been disconnected from the mains supply.

Good Point about the syphon effect. Us chaps with the EC328 do not have a separate switched circuit on our control panel for switching on the whale external roller ball pump. 12volt is  permanently on the whale master socket. With no float switch in the tank and relying on the correct operation of the whale master socket pressure switch working correctly, I will always disconnect my hose to the roller ball. For owners who have other versions of the control panel with a switched pump feed I think there is a one way flap in the whale master socket to stop syphoning?
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Post by Caraman Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:57 am

Johnuready wrote:
For owners who have other versions of the control panel with a switched pump feed I think there is a one way flap in the whale master socket to stop syphoning?
When I dismantled my 2019 inlet socket last year I didn't see a flap valve.
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Post by Johnuready Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:07 am

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Post by Johnuready Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:08 am

This is the kit I was thinking of buying for my master socket.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:25 am

Johnuready wrote:
Caraman wrote:Just noticed a small consequence of removing the solenoid valve.  If the whale pump is switched off at the control panel or float valve if there is one, but it is left connected to the whale inlet socket, water can syphon out of the fresh water tank back through the pump.  This is remedied by removing the pump from the inlet socket when it is not being used which is a normal thing to do.  The same would apply if a hose pipe is left connected to the inlet after it has been disconnected from the mains supply.

Good Point about the syphon effect. Us chaps with the EC328 do not have a separate switched circuit on our control panel for switching on the whale external roller ball pump. 12volt is  permanently on the whale master socket. With no float switch in the tank and relying on the correct operation of the whale master socket pressure switch working correctly, I will always disconnect my hose to the roller ball. For owners who have other versions of the control panel with a switched pump feed I think there is a one way flap in the whale master socket to stop syphoning?

My EC328, and the EC325 before it, has an external pump option in the control panel, internal/external/both are the options.

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Post by Johnuready Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:32 am

Thanks Peter, I’ll check that out when we get home.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:34 am

Johnuready wrote:Thanks Peter, I’ll check that out when we get home.

In the options menu, not buttons on the face plate.

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Post by bolero boy Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:27 pm

...and some say the Truma Combi is complex....scratch head

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