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Post by Toffee Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:45 pm

I’ve inherited a smart TV and this got me thinking, I could connect the tv to my iPhone using the phone as a hotspot and use the 4G to watch programs through Iplayer and itv x etc. this is appealing as currently my digital Ariel requires replacing.
Unfortunately, I can do this whilst my phone is connected to a Wi-Fi system, but as soon as I turn off Wi-Fi on my phone and switch back to 4G the phone disconnects from the tv. My mobile contract is with Tesco and they claim on their website what I am trying to do is possible and within the scope of their service.
Anyone done this? 
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Post by Mike187 Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:47 pm

I think you need your WiFi switched on on your phone so it can connect to your TV. I’ve tested that by connecting my iPad to my phone hotspot and as soon as I  turn off WiFi on my phone the iPad disconnects.

I assume your are trying it out at home while the phone is connected to your house WiFi so you will have disconnect it from that to force it on to 4G 

Hope this helps

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Post by Tinwheeler Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:53 pm

It may well be that you need the wifi switched on to reach the TV, as Mike says. Alternatively, rather than creating a mobile hotspot, you may find your TV will only allow a Bluetooth connection to your phone. I would check the TV instructions and see what they say.
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Post by The Bargee Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:28 pm

I’m sitting in my barge in Belgium watching my dumb TV connected by HDMI cable to my laptop, which is running on Wi-Fi from my U.K. iphone.

The TV is actually a Smart one but we gave up trying to do the same as you are trying. 

So to put it another way, iPhone tethered to computer by Wi-Fi, then hdmi cable to TV. The Netflix, Prime etc. are selected on the computer so we are just using the TV as a monitor. We use satellite to watch live tv but that can of course also work through the pc if we can’t see a statellite.

I’m told it works better because most smart tv processors are dog doings, and it works for us.
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Post by Tinwheeler Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:45 pm

Thinking about it further, Toffee, I think you will need to connect your TV to wifi for it to pick up the wifi signal emitted by your phone's hotspot which it will have converted from 4G. 

If your TV is not wifi enabled, the connection you describe above is probably made by Bluetooth rather than wifi. If this is the case, your choices will be Bluetooth or a cable as Bargee describes.
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Post by Toffee Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:51 pm

Thanks for the suggestions, I will give these options a try.
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Post by Tinwheeler Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:05 pm

Let us know what happens.
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Post by Rocky Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:42 pm

Toffee - why do you 'switch off the wifi'?  I use this system (with smart TV) all the time whilst travelling and it works well.  Between the wife and I we have a lot of GB data, useable in the UK and abroad.

Whilst in the van I keep the hotspot on all the time and once you have paired the phone with your TV, it will automatically connect thereafter with the hotspot on and the TV on.  Keeping the hotspot on does not prevent you from making or receiving calls.

Hope this helps.
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Post by Toffee Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:32 am

Rocky, the confusion on my behalf is that I’m trying this at home and my thoughts were by turning off Wi-Fi on the phone I was disabling the connection between my phone and the router in the house. I understand now that I need to turn off the router and leave Wi-Fi enabled on my phone. I’ll give it a go. Regarding data I’m thinking 100gb will give us more than enough viewing time. Ou  if needs will be around 5 hrs a month maximum.
I’ll report back when I have tried it again
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Post by RML Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:10 am

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Post by Dbvwt Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:11 am

I’ve got a Samsung Android but I assume the same will apply to an iPhone.

1. In order for hotspot to be enabled, WiFi on the phone has to be set to OFF. The phone will now effectively be the router.
2. Connect the TV to the new network (the phone).

It really is as simple as that in theory. In practice, I’ve found that smart TV’s are a bit hit and miss when connecting to a phone, a point mentioned in a previous post. It’s one of the reasons I fitted a dedicated WiFi system in my van.
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Post by Peter Brown Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:26 am

We have a Samsung Android's and don't have to switch off the wifi to use them as mobile hotspots - that we do a lot to stream TV.

The Avtex smart tv can only store one wifi hotspot so, even with a smart TV, I use a Firestick that will connect to whichever phone or the van wifi that's switched on without having to re-enter codes.
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Post by rgermain Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:38 am

Strange, my Samsung Android, A54 5G tells me to switch off Wi-fi " To use Mobile Hotspot, Wi-Fi needs to be turned off" is the message displayed on phone. It always works for me.
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Post by Dbvwt Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:56 pm

rgermain wrote:Strange, my Samsung Android, A54 5G tells me to switch off Wi-fi " To use Mobile Hotspot, Wi-Fi needs to be turned off" is the message displayed on phone. It always works for me.

Mine also Richard and on all previous androids. Coincidentally, I've now got the same A54 as you.
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Post by v8oholic Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:22 pm

There’s more than one way of connecting a hotspot on a phone to another device, but if you don’t want to use a physical cable (and why would you) then the phone’s WiFi must be on, as there’s no other way for devices to connect to it. However it’s not acting as a WiFi client in this scenario, but as a bridge between the cellphone network and a temporary WiFi network which the phone creates. It’s trivial on an iPhone. Just turn on the hotspot and it does the rest.
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Post by Dbvwt Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:36 pm

Maybe iOS and Android are different V8 as I definitely have to turn WiFi off.

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Post by v8oholic Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:59 pm

It seems to be wasting your time with an unnecessary prompt, when it could just disconnect from the WiFi network all by itself. The WiFi ends up on, just in a different mode, or else it would be impossible for anything to connect to it wirelessly.
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Post by Peter Brown Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:05 pm

We have a Galaxy S21, S22 and Flip and the hotspot works on all with wifi on - see pics:

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Post by Rocky Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:05 pm

Dbvwt wrote:Maybe iOS and Android are different V8 as I definitely have to turn WiFi off.

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Are you connected to an external WiFi source at this point, like a campsite WiFi ?  The prompt to turn off WiFi would make sense then.
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Post by Dbvwt Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:06 pm

I agree but that’s what it is!  
Back to the O/P’s original question, I guess all he needs to do (as he has an iPhone) is turn hotspot on and then connect the TV to the phone.

Edit.. my reply was for V8. Rocky, it comes up no matter what or where  smile!


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Post by Dbvwt Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:12 pm

Peter, maybe that’s the difference between the flagship S and A range of Samsung phones??
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Post by Peter Brown Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:14 pm

Maybe - when I went out to the van to take the pics the Firestick announced it needed an update - better here than on site but 30 mins in a cold van!
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Post by Tinwheeler Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:23 pm

OK, this is my experiment with my iPhone and connecting my iPad via the phone's hotspot.

1st pic is the phone with wifi off and using 4G. You can see what happened so I turned wifi on.
2nd pic is the pad finding the phone's hotspot with wifi turned on on both devices.
3rd pic is the phone (still using 4G and wifi on) showing the link connection to the pad.

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Post by Dbvwt Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:30 pm

Correct me if I’m wrong but my conclusion is that IOS devices and top end Android devices don’t need WiFi to be turned off.
Mid range and lower android phones have to disable WiFi for hotspot to work.
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Post by Toffee Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:17 pm

I’ve tried the suggestions, and the solution to prove it works was to power off the home Wi-Fi.
Turn on hotspot- leave Wi-Fi on on the phone - enter the phones hotspot password into the TV - Watch the TV.

The connection buffered a fair bit initially, but settled down after a few minutes, the problem Chanel was itv x which was clunky, but I find the same when connected to the home Wi-Fi.

So, thanks for all the help.
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