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Post by Paulmold Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:12 pm

Suppersready wrote:Robins and day are Peugeot commercial try a search for your area …
Croydon has one
New name for Robins & Day...

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Post by Caraman Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:14 pm

When I discovered the hard way that not all Peugeot dealers take motorhomes I asked Peugeot UK for a list of those who did.  Unfortunately their list was just of Peugeot dealers so I had to phone each in turn to find out who would take motorhomes.  

I've just found the list I made in 2019 of those who did take motorhomes that were within my range.  The first 3 are the only ones I have used.  None are likely to be any good for you but they show that they are available:

Devizes
Basingstoke 
Hamble
Dorchester
Poole
Swindon
Bristol

I have no experience of gearbox repairs but I doubt a main dealer will strip one down if that is what it needs.  I think they are more likely to send the gearbox away to a specialist repairer.
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Post by mikethebike Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:59 pm

Search "gearbox"

A few on our site.

Maybe it's not just the size but weight as well that puts them off.?

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Post by mikethebike Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:06 pm

Another thought. Ask Autosleeper what can you do?
they must have had this question before.

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Post by harrysp Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:34 pm

If you’re prepared to go as far as Portsmouth then a garage called Adams Morey has cropped up on Motorhome Fun several times as very reliable , especially with the Comfortmatic gearbox. I know yours is a Peugeot and manual but nothing to lose by giving them a call. No personal experience, only what I’ve read. 
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Post by Alwaysurfing Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:35 pm

mikethebike wrote:Another thought. Ask Autosleeper what can you do?
they must have had this question before.

Micky

They suggested warners of Tewkesbury might be able help…..
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Post by Caraman Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:38 pm

Alwaysurfing wrote:

They suggested warners of Tewkesbury might be able help…..
That's the closest Peugeot dealer to Willersey so not much good to someone in the SE
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Post by Avontourist Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:08 pm

does it stay in gear if you hold the gear lever ?
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Post by Alwaysurfing Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:16 pm

Avontourist wrote:does it stay in gear if you hold the gear lever ?


I would say when it first started yes, but it might be my imagination as I have  become fixated on the issue but it now gives a healthily thump out of gear which does bang your hand pretty hard….
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Post by Libraryman2 Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:12 pm

First thing I would do is go on FB and join the Peugeot / Citroen boxer group..
Loads of good experience on their, I guarantee you’ll get a few comments and possibly solutions.

As others have said ..open the bonnet and you’ll see the linkage..give it a good dose of lubricant  (thin machine oil) to start

It sounds like the 1st gear synchro ring may be struggling but maybe it’s just the linkage.

As an aside; don’t drive resting you hand on the gear stick, this puts strain on the synchro rings….secondly..you can if you’re careful pull off from very low speeds in second….it might just protect that1st gear a little until you get it correctly diagnosed.

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Post by glyne lock Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:02 pm

Caraman wrote:When I discovered the hard way that not all Peugeot dealers take motorhomes I asked Peugeot UK for a list of those who did.  Unfortunately their list was just of Peugeot dealers so I had to phone each in turn to find out who would take motorhomes.  

I've just found the list I made in 2019 of those who did take motorhomes that were within my range.  The first 3 are the only ones I have used.  None are likely to be any good for you but they show that they are available:

Devizes
Basingstoke 
Hamble
Dorchester
Poole
Swindon
Bristol

I have no experience of gearbox repairs but I doubt a main dealer will strip one down if that is what it needs.  I think they are more likely to send the gearbox away to a specialist repairer.
so would they be a main dealer if this was correct NO .they would be removed from been a dealer
warranty work a gearbox problem is this person going to say i think they are more likely to send the gearbox away to a specialist repairer. the dealer now needs to put a claim for the repair are they going to  get paid for the cost needid  NO   
Caraman says he has no experience  read  oh_blast!
so more jack and jill story time
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Post by Suppersready Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:28 pm

Glyne,

Given your extensive knowledge,  which I think is very much respective on this forum ?  could you not Channel this by supporting the OP instead of berating those trying to help with demeaning statements of Jack and Jill storylines.
Just my personal observation …

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Post by glyne lock Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:29 am

Suppersready
I am sorry if you don’t like what the people in the trade call this ref a jack and Jill story .I have not used words that the forum rules say cant be used that is used by people in the trade
To many post are posted by this person and are to no help lots will just cost people more money
Do I want to save people money YES
On another post Caraman said based on his experience before and after the solar mod but charged on the mains so did not test for 3 months on just 1 x80w panel now he gives another good story BUT to no help again and will again cost people money IF they think this is true .
I can show people that in the winter not many days will the panel even get to 12volts to start to give charge so clearly no help again 
There have been some very good post from people that did have a great skill to help and save people money but no longer do 
I do still talk to some and have been told the reason they no longer post here .I have said please please you had been a great help on the forum and I can see you have got a good skill and a person I would say people could trust

People putting incorrect and poor information is what needs to be stopped as is no help and lots of the time will cost people lots of money 
It’s hard to help when you then get the people that are just putting another incorrect story then stops the people that would have helped
To many post are not trying to help if that was correct would read it first and say is this a help or are they just trying to look good 
Suppersready  i have no problem with what you have said 
From what has been said on this post 2 other people have said things that would help but most others  are clearly to no help
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Post by Suppersready Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:12 am

glyne lock wrote:Suppersready
I am sorry if you don’t like what the people in the trade call this ref a jack and Jill story .I have not used words that the forum rules say cant be used that is used by people in the trade
To many post are posted by this person and are to no help lots will just cost people more money
Do I want to save people money YES
On another post Caraman said based on his experience before and after the solar mod but charged on the mains so did not test for 3 months on just 1 x80w panel now he gives another good story BUT to no help again and will again cost people money IF they think this is true .
I can show people that in the winter not many days will the panel even get to 12volts to start to give charge so clearly no help again 
There have been some very good post from people that did have a great skill to help and save people money but no longer do 
I do still talk to some and have been told the reason they no longer post here .I have said please please you had been a great help on the forum and I can see you have got a good skill and a person I would say people could trust

People putting incorrect and poor information is what needs to be stopped as is no help and lots of the time will cost people lots of money 
It’s hard to help when you then get the people that are just putting another incorrect story then stops the people that would have helped
To many post are not trying to help if that was correct would read it first and say is this a help or are they just trying to look good 
Suppersready  i have no problem with what you have said 
From what has been said on this post 2 other people have said things that would help but most others  are clearly to no help

Glyn,

As I have already stated I am not questioning your knowledge, neither your intentions to help or save people money. I just feel that the feedback you give could be a little more positive. However if you and people you mention are happy then
maybe I should have kept my views to myself  shrugg

My post used the word respective … of course I meant respected.

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Post by Tinwheeler Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:29 am

It is very possible to give an alternative view without belittling another poster and I think most of us achieve that. However, perhaps a poster who again and again appears to put another down could bear that in mind?
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Post by Alwaysurfing Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:52 am

So thanks to everyone for your replies and interesting thoughts on my 'jumping gear' issue.

I have this morning taken the van to an independent commercial garage in Kent who seemed to understand that I would like a proper diagnosis of the issue before they dive in and drop the gearbox.

The place was massive - at 3.5 tonnes and 8m we were definitely the smallest vehicle in the forecourt.... 

I'll update this topic as to what happens - in the meantime, please all try to play nice...

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Post by Tinwheeler Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:54 am

That’s what you need, Always, a proper commercial vehicle workshop. Hope it works out well for you.  allthumbz
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Post by inspiredron Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:14 pm

And until we moved to Shropshire Robins and Day in Morden serviced mine.

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Post by mikethebike Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:12 pm

I have one in Whittlesey  NR Peterborough.

Took  Sammy there after purchase.

Checked gearbox and oil and gave me gearbox type.

no charge.

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Post by IanH Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:03 pm

Garage at Taverham did mine, it was a gearbox off job anyway as it also needed a clutch, all done on a big ramp, then parked whilst the gearbox was away here.... to be rebuilt, all bearings replaced

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Highly recommended, these guys really know manual gearboxes, one extra good bit, your job is allocated to just one, of several, mechanics, they have your phone number and you know their name so comms between you, if required are easy...

For example, mine, initially went in for diff bearings, he called me and asked if I'd like anything else done whilst here.. I said definitely, please change all the bearings while you have it, only cost a few pounds more, great service... up!
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Post by Alwaysurfing Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:50 pm

So, the van went in Monday, insisted they checked linkages and anything else that issue could be before dropping the box.  The spanner man said; checked, nothing found, linkages all ok, can only adjust to neutral on this model- so has to be gearbox issue.

Box dropped - collected by the gear box repair place - their update today;


The gearbox is in the process of being stripped. So far in the notes I can see that the pinion shaft has sustained damage, which does not usually form part of a recondition. I'll see what I can do to include it in the initial quote though. The 1st & 2nd hub is also damages, along with reverse & 1st synchros.


I guess that’s full price then!
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Post by mikethebike Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:38 pm

Get it all done.
You don't want to have any more labour costs.
Dont forget the receipt and warranty.

glad you found a repair specialist.

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Post by Alwaysurfing Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:42 am

Libraryman2 wrote:First thing I would do is go on FB and join the Peugeot / Citroen boxer group..
Loads of good experience on their, I guarantee you’ll get a few comments and possibly solutions.

As others have said ..open the bonnet and you’ll see the linkage..give it a good dose of lubricant  (thin machine oil) to start

It sounds like the 1st gear synchro ring may be struggling but maybe it’s just the linkage.

As an aside; don’t drive resting you hand on the gear stick, this puts strain on the synchro rings….secondly..you can if you’re careful pull off from very low speeds in second….it might just protect that1st gear a little until you get it correctly diagnosed.

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Joined Facebook groups - seems consensus is a 2l 2019 hdi adblue van is pretty much a croc of sh!t!

Looking forward to many more low mileage issues to come…..
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Post by Alwaysurfing Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:49 am

mikethebike wrote:Get it all done.
You don't want to have any more labour costs.
Dont forget the receipt and warranty.

glad you found a repair specialist.

Micky


Oddly in my opinion - the garage dropping the box gave to the gearbox people.  Eventually the gearbox people have told me the box is rebuilt and to pay them for that work.  Then after receiving payment they’ll send back to garage for them to put back on the van.  

Paid them £2000 now waiting to hear from the garage…. Who I’ll be paying separately.

Bit surprised garage didn’t just charge me at the end for the whole lot…
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