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Post by WANDERING DAVE Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:51 pm

Hi, I have just bought a brand-new Bourton, it comes with a tracker fitted but no alarm.
Could anyone tell me where I can get one fitted.
The alarm people are saying the new electronics on these new vans, make it impossible to fit an alarm system.
 Can anyone help.
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Post by Paulmold Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:19 pm

I thought Mercs had alarm as standard.

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Post by WANDERING DAVE Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:32 pm

Hi, like you I thought they did as well.
This is our third Merc. based Auto sleeper and I am sure they all had alarms fitted.

It seems they are having trouble with the new electronics; the central locking only works on the two front doors. They have had so much trouble with the habitation door, they have taken it out of the system.
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Post by Paulmold Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:48 pm

Surely the alarm though is a Merc fitting if they all had it,not a AS fitment, AS have never fitted alarms I far as I know, whether Merc  Peugeot or Fiat.

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Post by PLOUGHLIN Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:51 pm

Paulmold wrote:I thought Mercs had alarm as standard.
My 2011 MB didn't have OEM alarm, previous owner fitted Autowatch 2-1 alarm works from original key remote, no separate fob. AFAIK Sprinters don't have standard factory alarm.

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Post by Tinwheeler Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:53 pm

Same here, Ploughlin. Our 2011 Sprinter had a VanBitz alarm fitted by the previous owner.
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Post by WANDERING DAVE Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:10 pm

Thanks for the link ploughlin I will follow it up.
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Post by Paulmold Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:13 pm

You'll seefrom these specs that all new Sprinters have integrated alarm..

Mercedes Sprinter Pure standard equipment highlights:

  • MBUX 7.0-inch touchscreen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] with Wi-Fi, DAB, Bluetooth, USB-C connection, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto

  • Keyless start

  • Cruise control

  • Multifunction steering wheel

  • Dual passenger seat

  • Full-width partition bulkhead

  • Plastic floor covering

  • Head-insulating glass

  • Headlight assistant

  • Double locks

  • Integrated connected alarm system


Mercedes Sprinter Progressive standard equipment highlights (in addition to Pure):

  • Extra USB-C socket

  • Adjustable steering column

  • Height and rake adjustable steering wheel

  • Driver's armrest

  • Lidded dashtop storage

  • Wooden flooring


Mercedes Sprinter Premium standard equipment highlights (in addition to Progressive):

  • Air-conditioning

  • Driver's comfort seat

  • Upgraded seat trim

  • Front grille frame in body colour

  • Parking package (including reversing camera and Parking Assist)

  • Full wheel trim covers


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Post by PLOUGHLIN Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:31 pm

Paulmold wrote:You'll seefrom these specs that all new Sprinters have integrated alarm..

Mercedes Sprinter Pure standard equipment highlights:

  • MBUX 7.0-inch touchscreen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] with Wi-Fi, DAB, Bluetooth, USB-C connection, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto

  • Keyless start

  • Cruise control

  • Multifunction steering wheel

  • Dual passenger seat

  • Full-width partition bulkhead

  • Plastic floor covering

  • Head-insulating glass

  • Headlight assistant

  • Double locks

  • Integrated connected alarm system


Mercedes Sprinter Progressive standard equipment highlights (in addition to Pure):

  • Extra USB-C socket

  • Adjustable steering column

  • Height and rake adjustable steering wheel

  • Driver's armrest

  • Lidded dashtop storage

  • Wooden flooring


Mercedes Sprinter Premium standard equipment highlights (in addition to Progressive):

  • Air-conditioning

  • Driver's comfort seat

  • Upgraded seat trim

  • Front grille frame in body colour

  • Parking package (including reversing camera and Parking Assist)

  • Full wheel trim covers



That refers to the latest spec van, chassis cabs have different set of OEM.

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Post by Caraman Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:14 pm

In 2019 TSN Automotive fitted my Vodaphone Cobra alarm for Marquis.  Although TSN Automotive is based in Luton, they cover the Country with technicians who will fit the alarm at home.  My Cobra alarm is armed and disarmed by the vehicle's central locking remote fob and a second fob which locks all the doors but only unlocks the cab doors.  

It should be possible to connect any alarm to Sargent's tracker/communication module (with just two wires).  If the alarm is triggered, it should then be possible for a SMS/e-mail alert to be sent by the tracker/communication unit to the owner with another alert sent to the manned tracking centre in Bedford (if Sargent's subscription service has been taken out).  If it works (mine doesn't), it enhances the security provided by both the tracker and the alarm.  If you want this, your alarm fitter should talk to Sargent and to A-S or your dealer to find out where your tracker/communication unit has been installed.
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Post by WANDERING DAVE Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:35 pm

Thank you to all who have replied. 

It looks as if A/S have disconnected the alarm for some reason.

I will get my auto electrician to look into this.

I will let you know how I get on
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Post by Caraman Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:58 am

If its possible to activate the M-B alarm, it won't have ultrasound sensors covering the motorhome's internal living space that can be turned on and off.  It also won't have sensors on the motorhome's external locker hatch or habitation door.  This and a lack of integration with Sargent's tracker will reduce the alarm's effectiveness.
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Post by DeeGee7 Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:37 pm

This is who we had fit an alarm "Outsmart the Thief."  They came to the site, fitted and demonstrated how to set and unset. Heartily recommend them.  They contacted us in Spain, late one night when I set the alarm off by mistake, within 30 seconds of doing so. We were also informed on one occasion that our vehicle battery voltage was low.  I believe that it is possible for them to shut down the engine, in conjunction with the police, so no possibility of accident.  We had the van for 12 years and never had any worry about theft.
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Post by WANDERING DAVE Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:07 pm

Have found a local company to fit an alarm for me
T.V.S. Security ltd,
being fitted on 7th October.
then off to Scotland on the 10th.
Doing the Heart 200.New Scottish touring route.
Has anyone done it.
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Post by Paulmold Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:37 pm

WANDERING DAVE wrote:
Doing the Heart 200.New Scottish touring route.
Has anyone done it.
 Moved answer to your new topic

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Post by BornAgain Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:53 pm

Interesting comments above. We bought a new Bourton this year and noted that the habitation door is not integrated with the central locking system unlike our previous Broadway. This could be considered an advantage as you cannot accidentally lock yourself out. I guess the Merc. has the standard immob/alarm as the indicators flash when locking but it wouldn’t be possible to fit a habitation alarm integral with the locking system so the alarm company would have to put microswitches on the habitation door (and also the bed locker).

We had a Cobra alarm on our Broadway which Marquis organised as an optional extra. We had trouble with false alarms and Cobra were good at coming out but I concluded that alarms were more trouble than they were worth, especially as the Tracker is fitted as standard.
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Post by WANDERING DAVE Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:56 pm

Hi BornAgain, I tend to agree with you, but the other half feels a lot safer with an Alarm fitted. This is our second Bourton and I feel sure our last one had an alarm fitted as standard.

That was on the previous cab model. When they changed to the new cab they had a lot of trouble with the electronics, that is why they no longer have the Habitation door on the central locking, but as you say we have a Tracker fitted. 

I don't know about you, but I am very pleased to be back in an A/S Bourton.
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Post by Caraman Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:57 pm

BornAgain wrote:.....
We had a Cobra alarm on our Broadway which Marquis organised as an optional extra. We had trouble with false alarms and Cobra were good at coming out but I concluded that alarms were more trouble than they were worth, especially as the Tracker is fitted as standard.
I agree false alarms are a nuisance but with our Cobra they have all been self-inflicted like arming the alarm with a window or top hatch open and not disabling the acoustic sensors, opening the outside locker hatch without disarming the alarm and accidentally arming the alarm when fumbling with the lockable fuel filler cap.  Alarms and trackers do different things with one complementing the other.  Having both is not in my opinion an overkill or unnecessary.  I just wish that Sargent could get them to work together as they are supposed to and do with their caravan alarm.
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Post by BornAgain Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:14 am

WANDERING DAVE wrote:Hi BornAgain, I tend to agree with you, but the other half feels a lot safer with an Alarm fitted. This is our second Bourton and I feel sure our last one had an alarm fitted as standard.

That was on the previous cab model. When they changed to the new cab they had a lot of trouble with the electronics, that is why they no longer have the Habitation door on the central locking, but as you say we have a Tracker fitted. 

I don't know about you, but I am very pleased to be back in an A/S Bourton.
Yes, love the Bourton. The reduced water capacity we can live with and the Merc. chassis ride quality is superb compared with the Broadway. Auto box is a dream.
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