The BBC ..or is it just me?
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Why then every time I turn on the news does the BBC and ITV to a lesser extent devote the first 15 minutes to a "reporter" stood in the middle of a rushed hospital ward dressed in valuable PPE telling us again again the same old stories and getting in the way of those doing such a valuable job! We then cut to two or three other people in the studio making not always accurate comment on what we have just watched. Tonight I heard a neesrooder say "More people have died in the UK from the pandemic now than in World war 2." Now that is not strictly true is it, 70,000 UK civilians died in World War 2 but the small matter of the 350,000 that died from the armed forces is conveniently not mentioned, it would ruin the dramatic effect.
No secret here I hate the press but must we put up with this night after night, there are so many other things going on right now that are far more newsworthy.
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Perhaps he has the right idea?
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My biggest complaint is over the waste of money on reporters. Partly what groundhog has stated and partly over the continued practice of duplication. eg: reporter for national news stood on a motorway bridge, miles away from nowhere, possibly in the rain with a camera crew. Local news obviously same time of day, still raining still with camera crew another reporter presumably Salford based giving same story.
One other point. How many reporters were in the USA covering the Trump Saga? , being fed and watered on our Licence fees. Are we that interested.
Thanks for starting this topic guys as you probably guess its a topic that gets my back up.
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groundhog wrote:We all know by now unless you have lived in a different universe the World is suffering from a terrible pandemic, we all know it is serious and how stretched our services are.
No secret here I hate the press but must we put up with this night after night, there are so many other things going on right now that are far more newsworthy.
I share your point of view. My guess is it's an attempt to get over to those, not complying, how serious the situation is. The problem is that those numpties will not be interested in watching the news coverage. We're (in this house) trying to maintain a sense of balance in our lives right now and the impact and effect of the relentless coverage makes that just a little more difficult. I now take in the headlines and switch off. You are also correct about other news stories being either missed or not given sufficient coverage. Seems there's only one story in town.
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Poor old Lord Reith - that it's stooped to current levels.
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Where do you get it from. I have many negative opinions as wellRML wrote:There is a BBC survey being circulated to some licence holders by email, I filled it in last week and made my negative opinions c!ear.
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When you look at some of its content, such as the relentlessly positive coverage of the Royal family, it clearly feels that it does. Similarly, its coverage of the pandemic reflects - to a large extent - what the government wants us to hear.
So... what is it? A state's national broadcaster, or an independent global news provider? Is it "impartial and independent", or the voice of the UK's "public interest"? Can it possibly be both?
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I can recall a short and pointless debate (on another forum) with someone about Huw Edwards. I knew him as a very professional, and apparently harmless newsreader who had been around for so long that I pretty much took him for granted. But to my opponent he was a "Welsh windbag" who could do no right.
I personally don't find Laura Kuenssberg especially offensive. She has obviously been told to be thought-provoking and to question official government output, and that (to me) is all that she seems to be doing.
Robert Peston, on the other hand, is a presenter who I can't tolerate. It really doesn't make any difference (to me) what he is saying - it's the whiney delivery that gets to me, very quickly. But to others he is precious, apparently.
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The BBC are not alone, most of the mainstream media 'news' outlets have now moved away from simply reporting actual facts about events that have happened, to speculating constantly about what might/may/could possibly happen in the indeterminate future, usually forecasting worst case scenarios.
As to Peston, he has simply become a parody of himself and should no longer be taken seriously.
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It’s not either. It just puts out its own negative, biased propaganda about Brexit, it’s negative about anything to do with Great Britain, it has no proper ‘investigative’ reporters and it’s definitely not ‘impartial’.Roopert wrote:To add a bit of balance: IMO the BBC has had a problem identifying what it is, for many years. Is it still the UK's "national broadcaster" and, if so, does it have a duty to broadcast content that is "in the interests of the UK"? I.e. when viewed from outside, does it have a duty to broadcast state propaganda?
When you look at some of its content, such as the relentlessly positive coverage of the Royal family, it clearly feels that it does. Similarly, its coverage of the pandemic reflects - to a large extent - what the government wants us to hear.
So... what is it? A state's national broadcaster, or an independent global news provider? Is it "impartial and independent", or the voice of the UK's "public interest"? Can it possibly be both?
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That woman who cannot let her interviewee finish their sentence really annoys me. Why ask a question if you are not going to listen to the answer?
And why do they interview people - presumably with degrees - who always start a sentence with 'SO'? I conclude that day 1 at university consists of the students having drummed into them that they must always start every sentence with 'SO'.
Why do we need two separate children's BBC channels? Just to keep them indoors instead of being allowed out to play.
I personally spend my time sitting watching Youtube, it is a lot better.
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OldWomble wrote:It just puts out its own negative, biased propaganda about Brexit
Again, it's impossible for the BBC to be "right" and "unbiased" on this.
In the referendum, almost exactly half the people that voted were for, and half against. As the two are almost diametrically opposed on the issue, and few people have changed their stance in either direction since, the BBC cannot make any comment without getting it "wrong" for one half of that group!
Unless they constantly sit on the fence, which would no doubt annoy both sides...
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As has been pointed out, the Brexit vote was close to half and half so therefore they should spend roughly equal amounts of time covering positive as well as negative sides of the issue.
However survey after survey has found them to be consistently strongly pro-EU and anti-Brexit in their coverage. This lack of impartiality is not just in news or current affairs programmes - a study showed that 74 percent of the corporation's comedy slots in November 2020 were occupied by comedians holding "left-leaning, anti-Brexit or ‘woke' views".
And I have found their persistently woke PC agenda to have bled over into previously popular programmes such as Countryfile, Winterwatch and even Doctor Who.
Before anyone suggests this is all just coming from surveys of Telegraph, Mail & Express readers, Ofcom have come up with similar findings and if you want some typical viewer feedback, have a read of some of the reviews of the BBC on Trustpilot, where the overall rating across over 7400 entries is just one star.
And the BBC have not responded to a single negative review - but then why should they bother, they've got our money anyway since it's illegal to watch the BBC or any other live broadcast channel without paying them £157 a year.
Of course, not all of their programmes are rubbish, they do still make (or at least broadcast*) some excellent quality programmes, but sadly many fewer than in the past.
* Much of their output is now commissioned, produced by external production companies rather than in-house.
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As has been pointed out, the Brexit vote was close to half and half so therefore they should spend roughly equal amounts of time covering positive as well as negative sides of the issue.
I think this really needs some examples, to help me understand.
Please, can someone who watches Al Jazeera or one of the "better, less biased" news broadcasters please give some examples of the positive sides of Brexit that these "better" broadcasters are showing but the BBC are not?
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I believe it was random as I didn't request it.rose49f wrote:Where do you get it from. I have many negative opinions as wellRML wrote:There is a BBC survey being circulated to some licence holders by email, I filled it in last week and made my negative opinions c!ear.
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As I’m sure you are well aware, there are many positives from Brexit. Unfortunately the Brussels Broadcasting Company have never once mentioned any of them. Just look at all the FTA’s we have already signed up to all around the world, the huge inward investment from companies like Nissan etc and, most importantly, look at the vaccination program here compared with the EU. Yet all the BBC do is criticise the UK. They are NOT a national broadcaster and they are NOT independent. They need to be defunded ASAP.
I think this really needs some examples, to help me understand.
Please, can someone who watches Al Jazeera or one of the "better, less biased" news broadcasters please give some examples of the positive sides of Brexit that these "better" broadcasters are showing but the BBC are not?
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