Re: Why can't we talk English

by Paulmold Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:09 pm

My pet hate is the use of 'two times the power' or 'two times as long', usually in adverts. What happened to 'twice the power' or 'twice as long' ?

by willy eckerslike Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:24 pm

The black stuff was always spanish in Pontefract as well but it was never Spanish allsorts !!

by Askit Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:22 pm

willy eckerslike wrote:The black stuff was always spanish in Pontefract as well but it was never Spanish allsorts !!

I think you only get them after a dodgy Paella snigger

by willy eckerslike Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:15 pm

I didn't expect my comment to throw up anything like the Askit :hugegrins

by willy eckerslike Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:18 pm

Paulmold wrote:My pet hate is the use of 'two times the power' or 'two times as long', usually in adverts. What happened to 'twice the power' or 'twice as long' ?

They were both replaced by something twice as long lol4

by **roli** Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:21 pm

Count how many times Basically is used in conversations

by groundhog Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:28 pm

Literally no idea Roli? hugegrins

by Bad Penny Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:36 pm

I reckon, after 6 pages of why can't we talk English, it is time to learn and speak Welsh. The oldest language in the UK. hugegrins

Leighton.

by Gromit Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:44 pm

Bad Penny wrote:I reckon, after 6 pages of why can't we talk English, it is time to learn and speak Welsh. The oldest language in the UK.

Leighton.

Mrs Gromit's first language.
Lessons at discounted prices for members. up!

by Cymro Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:54 pm

Gromit wrote:
Bad Penny wrote:I reckon, after 6 pages of why can't we talk English, it is time to learn and speak Welsh. The oldest language in the UK.

Leighton.
Mrs Gromit's first language.

Mine too.

by Askit Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:13 pm

I only talk Scottish and rubbish think_smiley_46

by Gromit Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:27 pm

Cymro wrote:
Gromit wrote:
Bad Penny wrote:I reckon, after 6 pages of why can't we talk English, it is time to learn and speak Welsh. The oldest language in the UK.

Leighton.
Mrs Gromit's first language.
Mine too.

I know - you can't spell utmost!! lol4

by boxerman Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:58 pm

Askit wrote:I only talk Scottish and rubbish

I don't even talk Scottish content

Frank

by Cymro Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:17 pm

I suppose we should make the effort to understand some of the gobbledegook which passes for English these days. This is an email I received yesterday from Openreach (verbatim):

" In regards to your query, we would like to inform you that I am happy to inform you the Openreach has an ongoing project for this DP-32 to divert your line through cabinet. As this line is included in a cabinet project roll outs. In which your line would be diverted to the provide Fibre services. However, 2017/2018 Q2 is mentioned on our records to be the next update.

As, upgradation is designed by the planning team which is a long procedure and has involvement of cost, resources and a plan and we do not have any estimation date for the project completion date.

Please keep an eye on our website for future updates-https://www.homeandwork.openreach.co.uk/when-can-i-get-fibre.aspx

Thanks & regards,
Fibre Enquiries Team"

Upgradation???? I replied thus:

"Thank you for your reply. It's written in jargon. As far as I can tell it says "we have no idea when you'll get fibre". Is that correct?"

We seem to be speaking different languages. Which reminds me:

A little mouse lived behind the skirting board. He was hungry. So he thought he’d venture out from behind the skirting, to search for food. But as he approached the hole in the skirting, he remembered the advice which his late father had given him: “Before going out, son, always wait, and listen”.

So he did. And he was glad, because – from the other side of the skirting – he could hear purring and “meeaw, meeaw”. He said to himself: “Oh dear. There’s a cat there. I’ll wait and try later. I’m so glad I took my father’s advice.”

Half an hour later, the mouse tried again. He went up to the hole – and again remembered the advice which his late father had given him: “Before going out, always wait, and listen”.

So again he did. And this time he heard a growl, and “woof, woof.” The little mouse said to himself: “Ah. Good. A dog has come and has chased away the nasty cat. So it’s safe for me to go out.” And out he went.

Sadly, outside the hole remained the cat. Which gobbled up the mouse. After which the cat, stroking his whiskers, said to himself: “I’m so glad I remembered the advice which my father gave me: it’s good to learn a second language!”

Cymro

by groundhog Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:18 pm

Bad Penny wrote:I reckon, after 6 pages of why can't we talk English, it is time to learn and speak Welsh. The oldest language in the UK.

Leighton.

Isn't the oldest language in Britain Brythonic which I believe evolved in to the separate regional languages including Welsh and CORNISH amongst others? Not sure our Welsh friends can make that claim can they? wave

Great one Cymro allthumbz

by Bad Penny Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:41 pm

Cornwall is where my mothers family came from after a period of some years in America, so I'm not going to argue that point, I claim to be a member of both camps anyway.

Leighton

by Bad Penny Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:47 pm

Forgot to mention, it's my wifes first language also.

by groundhog Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:08 pm

What an intertwined lot we are, my forebears are Welsh, Lady G's are Irish and we have Canadian passports as well as an English one, not a mention of Cornwall where we live for now scratch head

Nearly moved to Manorbier a few years ago having spent two years setting up what should have been a great business in Cardiff but the owner wouldn't listen so I left and it subsequently stopped operating. Shame... anyway back to the thread!

by Askit Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:00 am

Cymro, good joke up!

When I read things like the reply you got from Openreach, I keep thinking of the old Brucie game, "please rearrange these words into a well known phase or saying". The invention of words like "upgradation" appears to be an American thing, sadly creeping into our culture.

by Bad Penny Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:42 am

Askit, one minute you claim to talk Scottish and rubbish and then you talk absolute common sense, what happened? allthumbz

by Askit Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:41 pm

Bad Penny wrote:Askit, one minute you claim to talk Scottish and rubbish and then you talk absolute common sense, what happened?

You have heard of Jekyll and Hyde, right snigger

Which gives me a chance (ala Cymro) to pass on an apocryphal story from my work life.

A guy appeared in court charged with breach of the peace and assault. He pled guilty and his brief, in mitigation, explained to the Sheriff (our version of judge) that the taking of alcoholic beverage was to blame. He said, "it's like Jekyll and Hyde, after too many drinks he goes from being mild mannered to a man possessed"

The Sheriff said "I understand completely, and in view of the circumstance, Dr Jekyll is admonished"

"Mr Hyde, however, will go to jail for three months" biggrin

by Gromit Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:01 pm

"Pled"?????

I thought we were aspiring to speak English on this thread? shrugg

None of your Scottish vernacular here if you please!!! snigger

Pled

(plɛd )

Scots law , US a past tense and past participle of plead

Collins English Dictionary. Copyright

HarperCollins Publishers

by Askit Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:54 pm

Gromit wrote:"Pled"?????

I thought we were aspiring to speak English on this thread? None of your Scottish vernacular here if you please!!!

Pled

(plɛd )
Scots law , US a past tense and past participle of plead
Collins English Dictionary. Copyright HarperCollins Publishers

Yes Dave, in Scottish courts it's the accepted word to use..............we have no pleaders up here Whistle1

by Cymro Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:26 pm

I wish that the criminal law of England and Wales had the third verdict, available in Scotland: (1) Guilty; and 2 aquittal verdicts: (2) Not Guilty; and (3) Not Proven.
That last one says a lot!

Cymro

by Askit Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:48 pm

Cymro wrote:I wish that the criminal law of England and Wales had the third verdict, available in Scotland: (1) Guilty; and 2 aquittal verdicts: (2) Not Guilty; and (3) Not Proven.
That last one says a lot!

Cymro

Previously I would have disagreed with you, it caused all sorts of problems for victims and their families. I'm less concerned about it now as we have the "double jeopardy" law which allows, should new evidence emerge, a person to be tried again for the original offence.