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Post by Pete Taylor Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:23 pm

2014 Stanton: is there some way to stop the step lowering every time I unlock the van? If getting into the cab we don't want the step to jump out, like Arkwright's till, and scare passing Grannies.

I've done a search on here and gone through the A-S handbook but can't see a way of stopping this happening. 

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Post by Claytaa Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:38 pm

When we open up in the morning it sounds like a drawbridge coming down, such a thud. No idea if you can stop it though.
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Post by Paulmold Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:42 pm

I imagine it's for your own safety. If you enter by the cab, you might decide to exit by the hab door and fall head over heels if the step isn't out. I'm assuming of course that it retracts again as soon as you start engine.

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Post by inspiredron Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:44 pm

My Peugeot has 3 separate buttons on the key remote for operating the locks. The central button locks everything. One of the other two unlocks both cab doors and the other unlocks only the habitation door. I have configured the locking/unlocking so that the electric step and the awning light both work in conjunction with the lock/unlock actions but they only operate with the habitation unlock, not with the cab unlock.
The configuration is done with some jumpers (connectors - not the wooly kind!) inside the EM50 interface unit that sits just behind the driver's seat. According to Sargent the EM50 is a box that connects the "Fiat" interface to the van electrics and it handles such things as split charging, fridge 12V running supply etc. Not sure if your Mercedes powered Stanton has the EM50 (Peter Brown would know) but, if so, you can disable step operation on unlocking. However that means that it will not pop out when you unlock th ehabitation door.
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This link [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] gives pictures and also the safety modification introduced in 2009 to avoid the danger of the step being retracted while somebody is standing on it! Doh!
I hope this helps.

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Post by Pete Taylor Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:59 pm

Thanks for the replies so quickly, I'll follow up those links.

What I am concerned about is- say I park near to the kerb and go about my lawful business, then return to enter via the driver's door and cause the step to fly out on the other side of and at the opposite end of the van. Surely I would be liable if someone tripped over it? Seems potentially rather dangerous in our current H&S-mad world.

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Post by Jaytee Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:20 pm

Peter, you can programme it in the control panel to what you want. Mine is fully manual except for retract when the engine starts.

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Post by Pete Taylor Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:43 pm

Jaytee wrote:Peter, you can programme it in the control panel to what you want. Mine is fully manual except for retract when the engine starts.
That's exactly what I want... now, where was that control panel.....  snigger

Edit: I can't see anything looking like the EM 50 unit but presumably there is an equivalent interface unit somewhere. I've found a reference in the A-S manual which says that stopping the step jumping out when the central locking operates is a "dealer configurable item". I've gone thro' the options on the control panel but not seen anything looking like a service function, which presumably, the technician uses. I'll ring them tomorrow.


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Post by PLOUGHLIN Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:10 am

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ps Can I have the jumpers when you get them off.

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Post by -mojo- Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:03 am

PLOUGHLIN wrote:
ps Can I have the jumpers when you get them off.

I've got quite a few here if you need some. TBH I can't recall exactly where they came from. Something PC based I'm sure - probably older motherboards - but they are seldom used these days, as most of that stuff is done in software/firmware now.
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Post by Jaytee Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:53 am

Peter, it's in the main EC480 control panel. Have a look in the AS manual how to enter the menus. Just a case of selecting what you want, easy peasy allthumbz

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Post by Peter Brown Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:50 am

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See link above. In the manual it says the step operation is 'dealer configurable' so I guess that is by link adjustment in the EM50. The EM50 in the merc should be on the back of the driver seat pedestal

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Post by Jaytee Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:52 am

Not not on my Merc Peter, we did it at Willersley through the EC480 in the menu section.

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Post by Peter Brown Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:03 am

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Jaytee, you are right instructions in the document at the link above and note the interface is now an EM40 not the EM50 that I am familiar with.

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Post by PLOUGHLIN Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:28 am

-mojo- wrote:
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ps Can I have the jumpers when you get them off.

I've got quite a few here if you need some. TBH I can't recall exactly where they came from. Something PC based I'm sure - probably older motherboards - but they are seldom used these days, as most of that stuff is done in software/firmware now.
Mojo, thanks PM sent.

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Post by Pete Taylor Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:42 pm

Jaytee wrote:Not not on my Merc Peter, we did it at Willersley through the EC480 in the menu section.
There does not appear to be any mention of it in the A-S manual, the only menus which it shows and which I seem to be able to access are:
System Levels- batteries and water tanks.
Active battery date.
Timer setting.
Clock. 

Maybe they don't want folks messing about with clever stuff?

I asked my friendly dealer about this "dealer-configurable" issue and he said "No idea" and then said I might have to remove a fuse...! he's getting their auto-electrician to call me tomorrow. I can't wait hugegrins .

At some point tomorrow I'll speak with Alan Currie at A-S about both this step control query and the dreaded broken seat- see separate thread. tap_fingers

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Post by Jaytee Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:52 pm

Pete,

if you download the EC500 manual Peter Brown gave the link for it gives all the necessary destructions. You have to go into the 'advanced' menu not just the front menu.
Go to AS logo screen and hold up and down buttons in simultaneously until screen changes, you then have all the 'interesting stuff' allthumbz Follow the manual up!

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Post by Pete Taylor Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:17 pm

Jaytee wrote:Pete,

if you download the EC500 manual Peter Brown gave the link for it gives all the necessary destructions. You have to go into the 'advanced' menu not just the front menu.
Go to AS logo screen and hold up and down buttons in simultaneously until screen changes, you then have all the 'interesting stuff' allthumbz Follow the manual up!
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Sorted- many thanks. I can understand why the advanced menu does not get a mention in the A-S manual- a bodger could cause all sorts of upsets in there! uncertain

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Post by Peter Brown Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:29 pm

Pete Taylor wrote:Sorted- many thanks. I can understand why the advanced menu does not get a mention in the A-S manual- a bodger could cause all sorts of upsets in there! uncertain

Yes, I thought long and hard before posting the link. Future readers note you could cause yourself lots of problems working in that menu area so be sure you know what you are doing before accessing it.

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Post by Claytaa Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:36 pm

Thanks Peter for the link,
Now got my step as I want it, cheers.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:35 pm

PLOUGHLIN wrote:
-mojo- wrote:
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ps Can I have the jumpers when you get them off.

I've got quite a few here if you need some. TBH I can't recall exactly where they came from. Something PC based I'm sure - probably older motherboards - but they are seldom used these days, as most of that stuff is done in software/firmware now.
Mojo, thanks PM sent.
Mojo, thanks for the two jumpers you sent me, they are the correct size. Step out and awning light now operate  on unlock.

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Post by Peter Brown Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:43 pm

Would it be a problem to post a photo of the unit showing the jumpers in place?

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Post by PLOUGHLIN Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:28 pm

Peter Brown wrote:Would it be a problem to post a photo of the unit showing the jumpers in place?

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I will try to take a photo, but space is a bit restricted between seat back and settee side. Not sure my Lumix will focus down that short.


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Post by Pete Taylor Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:49 pm

I must learn to be more specific in my thread titles (repeat 100 times).
Whilst we may now have solved my original 2014 Mercedes query, this thread has dragged in older Merc and Sevel/Pug matters too, both of which require totally different solutions. 
I apologise to future visitors to this forum.  Whistle1

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Post by Chris-&-Jane Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:31 pm

Pete Taylor wrote:2014 Stanton: is there some way to stop the step lowering every time I unlock the van? If getting into the cab we don't want the step to jump out, like Arkwright's till, and scare passing Grannies.

I've done a search on here and gone through the A-S handbook but can't see a way of stopping this happening. 

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on my MoHo the (Burford Duo 2021)central panels is a coloured LCD touch screen if you hold the cog button in the bottom left for 5sec it go to a 2nd menu on page 2 of this menu top left you can central what the step dose  

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Post by Bilbobaggins Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:28 pm

Realise you are new to forum but this was a question from 2014, so suspect solution was found several years ago, the step timer function in hidden menu of control panel is well known and documented on the forum

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