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Post by Dave C Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:45 pm

Hi all, I have a 2020 Stanton, the hab door central locking function has partially failed.
If the hab door is locked manually it will unlock using the remote key fob.
The door will not lock using the remote key fob, however, I can hear a faint click as if it is trying to lock.
I suspect that the lock actuator / motor is faulty.
Can anyone advise on the type of actuator and how it can be accessed?
Any advice will be gratefully received.
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Post by Caraman Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:30 pm

On this thread you will see a photo of what is claimed to be a Hartal door locking mechanism.  It is identical to the mechanism in my Lippert door which I suspect you also have.  

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To access the mechanism you need to follow the procedure I roughly described here:

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gassygassy has more recent experience with his Bourton door
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Post by Dave C Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:40 pm

Thanks Caraman, I have had a good look at those posts and I think that I may just disconnect the central locking on the habitation door and see how we get on with manual operation.
Have you any information on where the central locking can be disconnected, is there a fuse?
Should I just remove one of the wires from the sprung contacts?
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Post by Paulmold Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:46 pm

I don't know if this is relevant......

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Post by Dave C Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:42 pm

Afraid not Paul but thanks anyway smile!
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Post by Caraman Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:41 pm

Dave C wrote:Thanks Caraman, I have had a good look at those posts and I think that I may just disconnect the central locking on the habitation door and see how we get on with manual operation.
Have you any information on where the central locking can be disconnected, is there a fuse?
Should I just remove one of the wires from the sprung contacts?
The central locking is part of the vehicle electrics powered from the vehicle battery and operates independently of the EC700 and leisure battery.  If you look for it there should be a vehicle fuse that disables the central locking but I suggest you don't want to do that as you still want the cab central locking to work.  A way of disabling just the habitation door central locking would be to stick some insulation tape over the contacts in the door jamb.

My central locking failed because a small plastic peg in the locking mechanism had broken off.  This stopped the solenoid/actuator from engaging on anything.  The broken part has been replaced and I can now centrally lock the door but if I pull on the external handle to confirm the door is locked it won't unlock from the outside and I have to enter the van through the cab doors and climb over the reversed seats to waggle the internal habitation door handle until it opens.  Providing I don't check the door is locked after locking it centrally or with the key, it will unlock centrally or with the key.  Lippert are on the case.
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Post by Dave C Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:17 am

Thanks again Caraman, this Lippert door design seems to be a bit of an issue.
I will take the "easy" way out and go manual hoping that nothing else goes wrong with the door.

P.S. One of the door hinges has already snapped and been repaired so that couldn't possibly happen again, could it?
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Post by gassygassy Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:19 am

I recently had this problem, and with the additional problem of not being able to open the cutlery drawer with the hab door closed I took the door apart. The not locking/ unlocking problem was that one of the black rotating hooks in the door that clamp around the door frame was being obstructed in its movement by rubbing against the straw coloured inner skin plastic. The slots cut into the plastic are 'just about OK' provided that a millimeter-accurate robot fits it into place.
You can do two things:
1) If you want to resolve the inner handle-obscuring-the-cutlery-drawer problem you will need to remove the inner skin to get at a screw that is fitted from the business side of the skin. This isn't an impossible job but probably deserves its own 'how-to' posting.
2) If you are not bothered about the door pull-shut handle interfering with the cutlery drawer you won't need to remove the inner skin. Look closely at the black plastic claws where they rotate in the slots in the inner door skin. If one or both of them is rubbing against the skin you can just cut the slot wider using a Dremel or similar tool. That will fix the central locking issue.

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Post by Dave C Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:10 pm

Thanks, I checked the locking mechanism, it's not binding on the door skin.
It must be the actuator.
I will stick with manual operation and see how we get on with that.
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Post by K & S Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:26 pm

Guys my problem is having foolishly let my vehicle battery drain on my Peugeot Boxer Kemerton XL 2016 vehicle the key fob stoped working also using the ignition key on the drivers door only locked this door.
Having removed the vehicle battery and fully recharge it the ignition key operates correctly but the remote locking using the key fob doesn’t work at all.
I have tried fitting a new key fob battery but no joy.
Does anybody have a fix for this please? 
I have seen some apparently strange stuff about touching battery terminals to get rid of static etc but is there a better way?
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:19 pm

K & S wrote:Guys my problem is having foolishly let my vehicle battery drain on my Peugeot Boxer Kemerton XL 2016 vehicle the key fob stoped working also using the ignition key on the drivers door only locked this door.
Having removed the vehicle battery and fully recharge it the ignition key operates correctly but the remote locking using the key fob doesn’t work at all.
I have tried fitting a new key fob battery but no joy.
Does anybody have a fix for this please? 
I have seen some apparently strange stuff about touching battery terminals to get rid of static etc but is there a better way?

Try this, no guarantee though.

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Post by K & S Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:33 pm

Thanks will try this
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Post by K & S Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:27 pm

Unfortunately this didn’t work either Turing on ignition and pressing one of the buttons on the inserted key fob (tried all 3 buttons) or pressing buttons and holding down and then inserting the key and turning on ignition. Thanks for tying to help.
Anybody out there with other ideas every Welcolm.
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