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Post by provenjohn Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:34 pm

2021 Broadway EL, I'm attempting to find out what the unladen weight is, as this is the deciding factor for speed limits, with 3050 being the change point.
Mass in service is listed at 3162 on V5 but I understand that is not the unladen weight.
Has anyone found an answer to this?
Thanks


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Post by Paulmold Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:41 pm

Do you mean 3050kg not 2050? If your mass in service is 3162 and this includes driver weight of 75kg and full tank of fuel (90 litres of diesel weighs 76kg) I think its fairly likely that your unladen will be under 3050. Perhaps someone can give an exact figure.

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Post by PLOUGHLIN Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:05 pm

Paulmold wrote:Do you mean 3050kg not 2050? If your mass in service is 3162 and this includes driver weight of 75kg and full tank of fuel (90 litres of diesel weighs 76kg) I think its fairly likely that your unladen will be under 3050. Perhaps someone can give an exact figure.


AS state MIRO for EL is 3171kg, which includes driver (75kg), 90% full fuel (75kg ?) and EHU cable (5kg?). Any fixed extras like towbar, AC, TV etcneed including in the Unladen weight. Although UL weight is quoted for speed limits AFAIK no list of UL weights exists.


For older vehicles AS included other items in the MIRO, some of which can't be deducted to get a UL weight.

ie my Gloucester is:-

Mass in Running Order (MRO)
The Mass in Running Order is defined as the
mass of the standard converted vehicle with
bodywork including the following:
• Coolants (oil and water)
• 90% of automotive fuel
• Spare wheel
• Crockery
• Washer fluid
• Tools
• Driver (at 75 kg, 11st 12lb)
• Fire extinguisher

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Post by provenjohn Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:13 pm

Paulmold wrote:Do you mean 3050kg not 2050? If your mass in service is 3162 and this includes driver weight of 75kg and full tank of fuel (90 litres of diesel weighs 76kg) I think its fairly likely that your unladen will be under 3050. Perhaps someone can give an exact figure.


Yes, thank you, have changed it to 3050 now!
I was thinking the same but it would be nice to know.
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Post by FreelanderUK Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:27 pm

Motorhomes or motor caravans (not more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight) 30mph (48kph). 60 (96) 70 (112) 70 (112)
Motorhomes or motor caravans (more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)

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Post by provenjohn Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:20 pm

FreelanderUK wrote:Motorhomes or motor caravans (not more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight) 30mph (48kph).    60 (96) 70 (112) 70 (112)
Motorhomes or motor caravans (more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)

Yes, that's why I'm trying to find out the unladen weight!  rolleyes
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Post by FreelanderUK Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:41 pm

Unladen Vehicle weight as described by the Gov website

The unladen weight of any vehicle is the weight of the vehicle when it’s not carrying any passengers, goods or other items.
It includes the body and all parts normally used with the vehicle or trailer when it’s used on a road.
It doesn’t include the weight of:
fuel
batteries in an electric vehicle - unless it’s a mobility scooter or powered wheelchair
So for Motorhomes or Campervans if you vehicle is below that weight when unladen then the same as a Car. Above that weight when unladen then the same as a car except 50mph in a Single Carriageway and 60mph in a Dual Carriageway.

Have you got the original paperwork’s and Certificate of Conformity as it should be on there

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