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Post by cgorms on Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:12 pm

Hi,

New to ASOF, I'm looking to buy a new AS Nuevo ES from Marquis Leisure really like the van layout and usability.  I have a few issues in that in the brochure it says the Peugeot Euro 5 engine is 150bhp but the one on display and at their other branches are 130bhp, this is misleading and feels a bit underhand??

Also notice a few other bits mentioned in the brochure aren't in the van i.e. USB Ports and LCD Control Panel.  And lastly the price on Marquis Leisures website is £3,395 cheaper than the one on the forecourt, the specs don't match.

Anyone on here purchases a New AS Nuevo ES/EK this year, had similar issues?

Many Thanks,
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Post by roli on Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:50 am

I think the Sevil made vans have various options which the convertors choose and you may look at the same van again later or somewhere else and see the options you are expecting to see.   The only other possibility is old stock.

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Post by Maasai Warrior on Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:13 am

Our Broadway is a March 2014 model and has a 130bhp engine. From what I understand the engines were upgraded to 150bhp for the latest 2015 models, so your 'new' 130bhp Nuevo maybe a 2014 model, old stock!
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Post by cgorms on Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:41 am

The salesman show'd it came in the beginning of last month, so I would hope is not last years model.
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Post by poppy3 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:11 am

Hi, I am buying a Nuevo EK next year, and I have been told that the engine will be 150 bhp!
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Post by cgorms on Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:40 am

Poppy3 can I ask where are buying your Nuevo from?
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:24 am

Arn't the manual vans 150bhp, but the "auto" only 130 bhp, for some perverse reason?

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Post by cgorms on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:17 pm

That was my original thinking, but see the image linked.

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Post by poppy3 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:56 pm

Hi, I am going to get my NuevoEK from Spinney at Knutsford (subject to the correct deal!!!) I had a Swift Kon-tiki from them and the service was great. Dealt with them for 4 years with servicing and problems, nothing too much trouble.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:12 pm

AS website currently quoting 130 bhp engines for coachbuilts, but 150bhp for Van Conversions, manual and auto are the same .

The AS brochures are often out of date.

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Post by gemdeco on Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:18 pm

Hi
   I know it is not my money I am spending but Marquis have a new Stanton for sale at a reduced price and it is open to offers
  regards Alan
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Post by ajrm on Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:01 pm

Its confusing. I downloaded the latest AS brochure and it shows 150BHP Euro V engine or 130BHP Euro V engine in Fiat with Comfortmatic gearbox.
Looked on Motor-Plus.co.uk website and they are selling a 2015 Nuevo ES with 130BHP engine. 
I guess the solution is to ring Autosleeper and ask about the engines in the latest Nuevo ES.
To be honest, the 130 BHP Euro V engine is pretty nippy in my Broadway FB
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Post by PennyandDerek on Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:05 pm

I think the OP's point is that he is being asked to pay £3,400 more, for something that cannot be clearly identified.

I'm sure we could all agree that an extra three and half thou's of goodies would stand out like a sore thumb up! 

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Post by ajrm on Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:20 pm

I think the price difference is similar to what the Premium pack added to the list price on the 2013/14 models. There are other dealers that are selling similar vans with Premium and Winter packs included for a lower price.
The OP also brought up the engine size difference. As far as I can make out, the 130bhp engine should be a Fiat unit with  comfortmatic box, but the van specs in the leaflet say it is a manual and according to AS latest brochure, the manual should have a 150bhp unit.

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:39 pm

ajrm wrote:I think the price difference is similar to what the Premium pack added to the list price on the 2013/14 models. There are other dealers that are selling similar vans with Premium and Winter packs included for a lower price.
The OP also brought up the engine size difference. As far as I can make out, the 130bhp engine should be a Fiat unit with  comfortmatic box, but the van specs in the leaflet say it is a manual and according to AS latest brochure, the manual should have a 150bhp unit.
But AS website says different. AS brochures are not current spec.

Perhaps they used up all the cheap 150 chassis they got and have reverted to base spec 130.

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Post by cgorms on Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:42 pm

I've phoned AS today and waiting for a call back, hopefully I'll get a answer.
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Post by cgorms on Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:18 pm

I got a response from Auto Sleepers...

Nuevo ES is only available with a 130bhp engine at present, this is because it is built on the Peugeot Boxer short wheel base 3500kg chassis which is only available to us with the 130bhp engine.  

The Nuevo EK model however is based on the same wheelbase, but crucially is built on the lower 3300kg rated chassis which is available from Peugeot with the 150bhp engine, essentially its this anomaly that lead to the error in our brochure I’m afraid.
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Post by poppy3 on Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:21 pm

Hi, I have been told that the Nuevo EK will be the 150BHP and 3500KG on all new 2016 models....got it in writing from Spinney..?
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:53 pm

poppy3 wrote:Hi, I have been told that the Nuevo EK will be the 150BHP and 3500KG on all new 2016 models....got it in writing from Spinney..?
Regards poppy
I would sooner have it in writing from the people building it, AS. Perhaps Spinney are just reading the brochure, which is wrong, apparently.

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Post by poppy3 on Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:41 am

Hi, If it says 150 BHP on the official order form, then its good enough for me...if its not as ordered I will simply reject it! simple.
I am going to see Auto Sleeper at the Birmingham Show where Spinney will be, so i will get them both together as well....and of course report back.

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