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Post by robbymax Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:52 pm

mercedes auto sleeper devon, 3.5 ton what car can we tow, we have a Hyundai 2019 i10 1200 would that be to big ?
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Post by Bilbobaggins Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:01 pm

Check Gross Train Weight from handbook or plate on door frame and work out mass of fully laden moho plus mass of car to see if it would be okay

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Post by Tinwheeler Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:08 pm

What weight can your Devon tow and what is the laden weight of the car? 

As Bilbo said, look at the gross train weight on your van's plate and subtract the laden weight of your MH. The difference will be the weight you can tow but double check it with your V5. Don’t forget that adding a towbar to your van will reduce its payload and the weight of the towing frame will increase the weight of the car for the purposes of this calculation.
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Post by ourannie Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:19 pm

WE have an 2018 i10 and tow it with our Bourton, no problem, very easy and quick to hitch and unhitch.
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Post by Tinwheeler Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:49 pm

ourannie wrote:WE have an 2018 i10 and tow it with our Bourton, no problem, very easy and quick to hitch and unhitch.
I believe the Bourton to be heavier than the Devon so it may well be legally capable of towing more than the Devon.

The i10s are great little cars. Towing an auto model would need checking out with a knowledgeable person and/or the car's handbook.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:30 pm

robbymax wrote:mercedes auto sleeper devon, 3.5 ton what car can we tow, we have a Hyundai 2019 i10 1200 would that be to big ?

According to the AS manual for a 2010 Devon, the maximum braked trailer mass is 2000kg, well above your i10 weight.

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Post by Caraman Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:38 pm

A tow bar plus any drawbar weight caused by the towing frame or trailer will increase the Devon's rear axle mass.  So a bit of research and calculation is required.

Pages 8-3 & 8-4 are a start point:

https://orbit.brightbox.com/v1/acc-jqzwj/Auto-Sleepers/handbooks/handbook_documents/000/000/035/original/Devon-2010-handbook.pdf?1560167398
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Post by burlingtonboaby Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:37 am

TowBar2TowCar near Grimsby might be able to help, 01469560402, Google up there website,lots of info there.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:04 am

burlingtonboaby wrote:TowBar2TowCar near Grimsby might be able to help, 01469560402, Google up there website,lots of info there.
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Very good helpful company, just bought an UP! converted tow car from them. They list the i10  on thier list of previously converted vehicles and will convert customers cars (not cheap) including any necessary mods to existing/new tow bars and electrics.

https://www.tow-bars2tow-cars.com/electronic-a-frames/vehicles

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Post by burlingtonboaby Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:20 am

PLOUGHLIN wrote:
burlingtonboaby wrote:TowBar2TowCar near Grimsby might be able to help, 01469560402, Google up there website,lots of info there.
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Very good helpful company, just bought an UP! converted tow car from them. They list the i10  on thier list of previously converted vehicles and will convert customers cars (not cheap) including any necessary mods to existing/new tow bars and electrics.

https://www.tow-bars2tow-cars.com/electronic-a-frames/vehicles

I have a wee Kia Picanto Vr7 ,3 cylinder car, purchased from them last October, towed it for 7 weeks doing over Thousand miles on the A frame.
As Petersays, they have lots of stock if required.
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Post by robbymax Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:06 pm

if you have a tow frame fitted to your car, how easy is it it connect and remove, and does it fit in the back of the car
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Post by burlingtonboaby Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:12 pm

robbymax wrote:if you have a tow frame fitted to your car, how easy is it it connect and remove, and does it fit in the back of the car

Go to there website robby, there's a video of how to fit and connect the A frame, plus all the techie info one needs.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:22 pm

robbymax wrote:if you have a tow frame fitted to your car, how easy is it it connect and remove, and does it fit in the back of the car

On my "new" to me tow car from Towbars 2 Towcars ltd, I have only fitted it once and removed it twice. Fitting took about 10 mins which should get less with practice. Removal is shorter. Much quicker than loading onto trailer and fitting tie down straps.

They fit a quick release frame for the rear numberplate to swap from car number to MH number (supplied in the package), tow car sign for rear, clips on window edge.

The dis-assembled frame in its supplied bag does fit in boot but a bit of a struggle, so intend to store in MH external locker when on site and garage at home. All in all a well executed conversion package.

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Post by robbymax Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:27 pm

sounds good had a look at the website looks a good company, and a good product
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Post by robbymax Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:38 pm

the tow motorhome has a normal towhitch does it need anything else
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Post by Tinwheeler Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:45 pm

Only the associated wiring which might already exist.
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Post by robbymax Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:00 pm

sorry if i am being a bit thick but how does the towed car stear it self
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Post by Tinwheeler Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:32 pm

Obviously the steering has to be unlocked with the gears in neutral and the handbrake off and then the car follows the van. However, there is concern by some about the force on the steering mechanism as it has to work from the wheels up rather than the steering wheel down, to put it in very simple terms.
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