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External BBQ Point/Outlet in a Nuevo 2004

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Post by Bigplumbs Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:23 pm

Me and her indoors like having an external BBQ point and there is not one fitted to our Nuevo 2004.

I will do the job myself and grit my teeth as I drill the 60 mm hole in the side of the van (having first checked if there are any wires etc in the way).

It is worth noting that the Bullfinch has an 8mm OD pipe connection inside the van even though most vans now seem to use 10 mm OD pipework.

I have ordered all the parts:

Bullfinch External BBQ point in white         £43
3 m Coil of 8 mm OD Coper Pipe                £12
10 mm T                                                 Had one is stock
Short length of 10 mm pipe                      Had some in stock
10 - 8 mm reducer                                  £2
8 mm in line shut off valve                       £7

I will T off from under the cooker, Run along the inside front edge of the cooker storage area, Through the divider and into the double cupboard. This way it will be in a position that is accessible but not knocked.

The actual point will be to the right (viewed from the outside) of the habitation door low down. Quite good as you could sit on the step under the awning doing the BBQing.

Here is a pic of the location I intend to connect to. Yes it needs a hoover and a little clean.

Green splonge is the 10 mm T location and the green line is the route of the 8 mm pipe, Cut off valve and reducer

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Post by roli Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:38 pm

I take it you are qualified under the Gas Safe Scheme (Mobile) or have some qulaification under the Presssure Systems and Portable Gas Containers Act.

This forum cannot support home Gas Installations carried out by unqualified people. Please do not add to this post.
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Post by Bigplumbs Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:39 pm

The photo Below where X marks the spot is roughly where I intend to put the outlet.

Now going to email Auto Sleepers to ask them if there might be any wires or similar in the location[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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Post by Bigplumbs Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:43 pm

roli wrote:I take it you are qualified under the Gas Safe Scheme (Mobile) or have some qulaification under the Presssure Systems and Portable Gas Containers Act.

This forum cannot support home Gas Installations carried out by unqualified people. Please do not add to this post.

I posted the last post at the same time as you, Sorry. I am qualified to do this installation but I will not post further if you prefer
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Post by Robert M Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:35 am

Hi,
Please,
please do not barbeque under an awning - highly dangerous as you are trapping gasses. If your awning is out your barbeque should be at least 4 feet  away. Best advice barbeque without an awning!
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Post by stevewagner Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:49 am

roli wrote:I take it you are qualified under the Gas Safe Scheme (Mobile) or have some qulaification under the Presssure Systems and Portable Gas Containers Act.

This forum cannot support home Gas Installations carried out by unqualified people. Please do not add to this post.
There is no requirement to be registered under any scheme if you are doing work on your own motorhome
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Post by Jaytee Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:54 am

The naysayers are rife. hugegrins You could always get it checked by a gas qualified person. That’s probably what I’d do just for insurance purposes up!

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Post by IanH Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:21 pm

A man was flying along, quite happily in his aeroplane
The engine stopped

He jumped out, pulled his ripcord, nothing happened!!

Plumetting earthwards, to his amazement he sees anther guy going upwards!

Shouts accross, do you know anything about parachutes.?.
No said the upwards heading guy, do you know anything about gas installations??????? up! hugegrins hugegrins
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Post by Our Tilly Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:43 pm

Roli is correct.  Be careful with gas fittings as I believe it is an offence to carry out any work even on your own outfit unless you have the Gas Safe qualification.  Doing work yourself and then getting a gas safe person to check is also not allowed and the person checking would also be in danger of committing an offence.  Best to have it done by a fully qualified person who can give the correct certificate.  I have unfortunately seen someone suffer the sad consequences of not following the rules.
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Post by Paulmold Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:48 pm

stevewagner wrote:
roli wrote:I take it you are qualified under the Gas Safe Scheme (Mobile) or have some qulaification under the Presssure Systems and Portable Gas Containers Act.

This forum cannot support home Gas Installations carried out by unqualified people. Please do not add to this post.
There is no requirement to be registered under any scheme if you are doing work on your own motorhome

Highway Insurance won't cover fire damage unless any gas work has been carried out by qualified person. They also require annual gas safety check. Check the small print , other companies may have similar rules.

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Post by IanH Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:12 pm

In engineering 3 things to avoid like the plague....

1 compressed or wound springs
2 pressurised gases
3 flammable gases, which are, by definition, under pressure.

Ill fiddle with most things, never any of the above
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Post by Jaytee Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:36 pm

IanH wrote:In engineering 3 things to avoid like the plague....

1 compressed or wound springs
2 pressurised gases
3 flammable gases, which are, by definition, under pressure.

Ill fiddle with most things, never any of the above
Fiddled with all of those in aircraft engineering. HTP (high test peroxide) was fun  allthumbz

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Post by IanH Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:41 pm

Had a pressure test done on a piece of underwater equipment in Aberdeen. Had to be, as is usual 1.5 x working pressure.

WP was 18000 psi, TP was 27000 psi

We used specialist firm to do it, I took the boys to lunch!!!

(So was AVPIN!)
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Post by Kutch Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:57 pm

Quite interesting to read the comments on here from people with no clue as to the Gas Safety Regulations in force at the moment. In the UK only a COMPETENT person can work on a gas installation. DIY expert does not count and if you are in any doubt just have a look at this guide.

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Basically, if you don't have the qualification, you are not covered. Having a Gas Safe engineer check your work is not acceptable either. I am Registered with LPG and LAV and I would not dream of passing work done by an unqualified installer. Be safe. Get it done correctly.
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Post by Kutch Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:02 pm

stevewagner wrote:
roli wrote:I take it you are qualified under the Gas Safe Scheme (Mobile) or have some qulaification under the Presssure Systems and Portable Gas Containers Act.

This forum cannot support home Gas Installations carried out by unqualified people. Please do not add to this post.
There is no requirement to be registered under any scheme if you are doing work on your own motorhome
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Post by Askit Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:33 pm

Kutch wrote:
stevewagner wrote:
roli wrote:I take it you are qualified under the Gas Safe Scheme (Mobile) or have some qulaification under the Presssure Systems and Portable Gas Containers Act.

This forum cannot support home Gas Installations carried out by unqualified people. Please do not add to this post.
There is no requirement to be registered under any scheme if you are doing work on your own motorhome
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Not that I'm ever going to work on any gas related installation but I can't get the link to work.

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Post by Paulmold Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:42 pm

Askit wrote:
Kutch wrote:
stevewagner wrote:
There is no requirement to be registered under any scheme if you are doing work on your own motorhome
Incorrect

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Not that I'm ever going to work on any gas related installation but I can't get the link to work.

Same here for the link - but I do admit to having removed fridges and Carver heater in the past but not in the last 10 years. Now I'd get a man in.

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Post by Kutch Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:00 pm

Askit wrote:
Kutch wrote:
stevewagner wrote:
There is no requirement to be registered under any scheme if you are doing work on your own motorhome
Incorrect

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Not that I'm ever going to work on any gas related installation but I can't get the link to work.
Weird..... just google it if req.
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Post by Tinwheeler Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:15 pm

This is interesting too but I can’t see anything about law relating to caravans/MHs other than hired vans.

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Post by PLOUGHLIN Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:12 pm

Tinwheeler wrote:This is interesting too but I can’t see anything about law relating to caravans/MHs other than hired vans.

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The Gas Safety (installation and Use) Regulation 1998 states in clause 2(5)

"(5) Nothing in these Regulations shall apply in relation to the supply of gas to, or anything done in respect of a gas fitting on—

(a)a self-propelled vehicle except when such a vehicle is—

(i)hired out in the course of a business; or

(ii)made available to members of the public in the course of a business carried on from that vehicle;"

So I am afraid you can mess with your own motorhome gas system. I wouldn't but it is not illegal or unlawful (subtle difference).

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Post by Tinwheeler Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:30 pm

That was always my understanding, Ploughlin, but I thought things might have changed. 

Thanks for finding it.
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Post by roli Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:50 pm

Enough has been said on this topic now and I have decided to close the thread.
Genuine facts have been spelt out by Kutch and others in addition to my own knowledge which I accept is probably out of date.
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