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Post by yammy Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:02 pm

I have been asking the question since i bought my 1st van which was an Autosleeper Talbot Express Harmony. Why does Autosleeper fail to put twin armrests in any of their models (old and current).  Every other manufacturer which produce base vehicles on Fiat, Peugeot and Mercedes etc all have twin armrests. i for one, and am sure is the same for alot of mh'ers , find driving is one of the most pleasurable parts of the holiday. I like to have my arms both at the same level with both armrests down, not having to stretch my right arm perched on the door. When you are then parked up and relaxing with the front seats swivelled and feet up, it is very comfortable to have both arms at the same level when reading books or having a kip!!

I questioned this at several motorhome shows with Autosleeper, they said its always been the way, Not a good enough reason, they said i could replace front seats with Aguti which was hugely expensive.

Am i the only one that thinks they should put twin armrest in???
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Post by Eltel Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:38 pm

I’m in complete agreement.

The reason I was given is that AS seats have a lumber support control fitted where the armrest is fitted.

I’d still rather have extra armrests 

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Post by yammy Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:04 pm

Its a shame that they dont give you the option if buying new, sure they can source twin armrest seats, you can have a Fiat engine option, why not seats, it has put me off buying an autosleeper as driving comfort is very important to me.
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Post by burlingtonboaby Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:16 pm

I had twin armrests in my 09 Nuevo and 08 Sigma ,both X250 cabs, only one in my 16 Warwick ,X290 cab.
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Post by breakaleg Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:25 pm

My current van has two and this I am going to miss, what makes it worse is that when rotated the armrest is on the inside and nothing to stop you falling of the seat. 
They used to say that in the event of an accident it would hamper the fire service getting you out the cab, really! they can cut the roof off in seconds I don't think an armrest would hold them up much .lol
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Post by bolero boy Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:45 pm

"I questioned this at several motorhome shows with Autosleeper, they said its always been the way, Not a good enough reason, they said i could replace front seats with Aguti which was hugely expensive."


its certainly possible to have twin armrests on standard Fiat seats as in pretty much any other brand..photos are Malibu PVC and AT imala, so not top price models....perhaps Peugeot are different?
my SIL's 2009 Fiat camper had two armrests...
perhaps it's the lumbar issue?
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Post by yammy Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:46 pm

i suppose if you've had too many vinos  celebrate1  there is always a possibility of falling off, might have to hold yourself in with some bungee cords  hugegrins
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Post by yammy Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:52 pm

It certainly only seems to be an Autosleeper issue as all the different manufacturers vans i've looked in over the years have all had twin armrest. Peugeot are no different as Bailey Motorhomes use Peugeot and have twin armrests.
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Post by IanH Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:55 pm

My solution, using the passenger seat armrest (wife didn't like or want it)
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Post by Eltel Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:41 pm

IanH

What a brilliant idea.

You don’t happen to have the pattern do you ?

As I’m no metal worker, I might be able get them made.

Did you source the extra armrests new or a vehicle breaker.

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Post by Molly3 Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:08 pm

Put shades on,  arm out of window  look cool
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Post by Mallo Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:36 pm

We bought a new Nuevo from Spinney in 2016 and I specified twin armrests on the build which were fitted by AS. When we were looking (dealerships & shows) to buy prior to placing the order I just could not understand or figure out why they only fit one, you don't by an arm chair with only one! allthumbz
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Post by merv Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:50 am

I would not want to be without the lumbar support, although arguably you can provide your own firm cushion or Mckenzie roll.
Also, perhaps quick access to the handbrake is easier without the armrest?
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Post by Bibob Fri May 20, 2022 8:12 pm

Totally agree with Yammy ,had two on my burstner absolutely essential for relaxed cruising and lounging when on site ,depends on layout and use of van . Thought when we got the Kingham last year it would be easy to have second armrest fitted , not the case,Regal furnishings can't get them, tried to get two arms from Autosleeper and get them fitted locally, dealer said they could not even supply unless it was a warranty issue. I have read that some people don't like them and take them off.I would at least prefer the option  smile!
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Post by roli Sat May 21, 2022 9:04 am

I thinks its pot luck, our Executive had 2 armrests on both front seats, The Windsor had 1 armrest on each front seat. The Warwick had 1 armrest on each front seat which were quickly removed on safety grounds inso far as they reduced the access space to the cab. Cant say I have missed them
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Post by Paulmold Sat May 21, 2022 9:11 am

Same as Roli, taken off to give easier access from cab. Only our passenger seat swivels so we don't sit up there anyway but in the Nuevo I used to prefer to sit in the front seat swivelled round but even though we had two armrests on each chair we rarely used them.

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Post by breakaleg Sat May 21, 2022 9:19 am

I wish that we had two armrests, we use our front seats swiveled all the time and I feel like I am going to fall off the seat, we never use them when driving though.

there were two on our Elddis 115 also on that van both seats you could adjust the seat base but only on the nuevo drivers seat, we sleep using the two single beds and the seat is higher that the sofa and has to be packed with stuff to takeaway the uncomfortable ridge, I don't suppose anyone knows of a custom made infill to level it up to be flat.
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Post by Slow-Lane Sat May 21, 2022 10:02 am

Our 2006 Ford Transit-based coachbuilt has twin arm rests on both front seats. 
I don't know if this is an Auto-Sleeper addition or because it's built on a Ford base vehicle, which may have come with arm rests.
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Post by Avontourist Thu May 26, 2022 7:59 pm

Autosleeper vw medallion has twin armrests on the front seats , the seats are trimed with the same fabric as the rest of the van so I would think the were trimed at the factory .quite an easy thing to add to std seats but you need to remove the upholstery.
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Post by Neuvobluebird Mon May 30, 2022 7:22 am

i note that 2022 Autosleepers are fitted with 2 armrests
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