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Post by delilah on Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:07 pm

I guess we are all eagerly anticipating a relaxation of campsite rules in July.
 We have four lots of one week stays planned. If the toilets and showers are not available, we do not want to move a pitch every two days in our Nuevo to empty and refill as we would not be able to put our fixed awning up.
What extra equipment would we need to buy to empty the waste and refill the water every couple of days?
Would it be expensive to buy?
 Is this feasible?
Would a service pitch be a solution (if we could find one)?
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Post by Talisman John on Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:24 pm

For our Talisman we use a collapsible bucket to empty the grey waste and a watering can with a removable spout to fill up the clean water.

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Post by Dbvwt on Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:08 pm

Sorry if I’ve misunderstood the question but even if shower/toilet blocks are closed I would hope Elsan points, waste water disposal and fresh water would still be available.
If you don’t want to move the van then as mentioned a collapsible bucket and water container with suitable spout should do the job (a few trips will be needed though!).


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Post by delilah on Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:15 pm

Yes they would but we'd have to keep moving the van to access them.  If we put our fixed awning up then its much too much of a job to keep taking it down and putting it up.
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Post by Dbvwt on Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:20 pm

Just edited my post before you replied as I reread your question...the old grey cells seem to have also gone into lockdown recently smile!
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Post by Gromit on Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:15 pm

Did you miss John's and Dbvwt's posts Delilah?

A watering can and a bucket is all you need - and all we have ever used.

I presume you have a "hole in the wall" fill point? I think they were fitted as standard in 2014, but I'm not certain.

If you have to rely on the external pump system, then all you need is two buckets. Simple!
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Post by delilah on Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:42 pm

Yes that's exactly what we usually do, but i wonder how many bucket fulls it would take  to get enough water for two showers, washing food preparation and washing up.. then how many times we would have to fill up a bucket to empty all that grey waste?
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Post by Paulmold on Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:01 pm

If you have room to store it in transit, get a wheeled container such as this...

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Post by bikeralw on Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:06 pm

We rarely use sites, but on the occasions we do, for hygiene reasons we prefer to use our onboard facilities rather than site ones, so have a good idea of water usage.
A full water tank of approximately 100 litres will last us 3 days, that's six showers and all the washing up.  
So for us it's approximately 30 litres a day, that would be three trips to the waste point with a 10lt bucket and three return trips with our 10lt fresh water container.
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Post by delilah on Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:26 pm

Al, Thank you that's just the type of information we were after.  Very useful.
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Post by Paulmold on Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:40 pm

Standard  fresh water tank is 70 litres ,i think Al's had the 100 litre as an option.

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Post by delilah on Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:03 pm

Oops l'll have to redo the maths!
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Post by Paramedic on Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:12 pm

We have the 40 litre Aquaroll for fresh water and Fiamma Roll-Tank Grey 23 litre for grey waste. Both stored in the shower enclosure when on the move. If space is a premium, Fiamma also do a blue version for fresh water as mention by Paulmold.


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Post by bikeralw on Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:48 pm

Paulmold wrote:Standard  fresh water tank is 70 litres ,i think Al's had the 100 litre as an option.
I think you're right Paul. It must have been the first owner who had it as an option when the van was new.
I was under the impression it was a standard fitment.
Maths is still the same, just 2 days supply instead of 3.
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Post by Eltel on Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:58 pm

I always carry a collapsible bucket for emptying the grey water on rallies also have aqua roll to replenish the fresh water.

Under the present circumstances the above will also be used on all sites and I will not be using the site toilet block or kitchen washing areas.

Looking forward to getting on the move sometime soon.

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Post by rogerblack on Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:31 pm

Since soapy water is supposed to kill the virus (per the other thread on groceries) surely the safest part of the sites would actually be the showers!  

Seriously though, I would have thought taking your own disinfectant spray and going over the kitchen sink and drainer area with that before then washing dishes in soapy water would be OK, avoiding touching other surfaces where possible and wiping or washing hands when back at the van.

Not sure about loo cubicles though.  

I guess using the van's onboard facilities where possible would be the best way to minimise any risk, but being on the rotund side I don't find the Pollensa shower very practical.

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Post by Lancy on Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:11 pm

When we are roughing it we do not shower everyday but strip wash and wash the hair in the sink with a jug if desperate.
A flexi funnel is great for putting in fresh water with a watering can, as before as much was spilt as went in.
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Post by bikeralw on Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:17 pm

Lancy wrote:A flexi funnel is great for putting in fresh water with a watering can, as before as much was spilt as went in.
Answer to all problems of getting water into a vertical hole. The advantage is you can use any container for filling, even a bucket. I have a 12lt water container that I also use for storing our drinking water.
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Post by Lancy on Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:37 pm

I have not seen one of those before! Far superior to our 99p flexi funnel for Home Bargains!
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Post by RogerThat on Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:56 pm

bikeralw wrote:
Lancy wrote:A flexi funnel is great for putting in fresh water with a watering can, as before as much was spilt as went in.
Answer to all problems of getting water into a vertical hole. The advantage is you can use any container for filling, even a bucket. I have a 12lt water container that I also use for storing our drinking water.
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Interesting!

What do you call this gadget bikeralw ?
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Post by bikeralw on Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:53 pm

Everyone must have seen one of these before. I think it's correct name is a shoe fitting for guttering downpipe. Available everywhere for a few quid.
Oh, and you need narrow gaffa tape wound around until it's a snug fit.
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Post by Lancy on Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:53 am

Ah with my 99p Home Bargains, or was it B&M  scratch head flexi funnel you just stick it in when needed. Something like this....

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Post by mcalid on Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:08 am

delilah wrote:Yes they would but we'd have to keep moving the van to access them.  If we put our fixed awning up then its much too much of a job to keep taking it down and putting it up.
We just use one of those expandable hoses, we actually have two in case we really have to extend them.
Easy to store and seldom too far from a tap.
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Post by bikeralw on Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:31 am

All well and good a flexi funnel Lancy,  and I used to use one, but you have to hold it in place with one hand, while lifting a heavy water container with your other two hands.
The spout shoe is push in and go!
I also carry a length of hose for when near a tap, but it's not used as often as the spout shoe.
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Post by babian on Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:18 am

" closure of on site facilities ", I don't see much of a problem. A little bit of effort either way to get water too the van. Some good ideas above already. I always take with us a good selection of hose fittings ( as the site ones sometimes go missing) and these always include hose too hose adapters , push fit type. This allows you to use your shorter hose connected to a site reel hose ( after being flushed out)
I would use open camp facilities ( if they were not open not too bothered either ) and utilise all of our onboard facilities in tandom. 
Use the shower/toilet WASH your hands on the way out, don't touch face, AGAIN wash hands or sanitise hands back at van, keeping your traveling home germ free. 
It's the people potentially cueing at toilet/shower block you want to be Alert of. Just keep an eye on the ones who don't wash their hands etc. You'll spot them.
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