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Post by boxerman Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:57 pm

mikeyval wrote:
Reference wet field  = Tow Rope is the next purchase
Webbing straps are better, stronger weight for weight and they take up less room.

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Post by mikeyval Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:33 pm

Thanks for the heads up information Dave & Frank.
We are pre booked but first time hence the starting question we put up.
We are aiming to be at show site before 12 noon on Thursday.
We have been pre warned to expect "arrival bedlam"

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Post by Gromit Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:18 pm

mikeyval wrote:Thanks for the heads up information Dave & Frank.
We are pre booked but first time hence the starting question we put up.
We are aiming to be at show site before 12 noon on Thursday.
We have been pre warned to expect "arrival bedlam"
Where are you pre-booked?

I haven't forgotten that beer if you have! lol4

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Post by mikeyval Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:28 pm

Beer duly delivered. 
Nice to have met you Dave
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Post by Gromit Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:52 pm

Same here Mike.
Beer consumed - and very nice it was too.
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Post by Traficlady Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:43 pm

We've just got home this afternoon after being at the show from Thursday. Fabulous weather! 

Our only gripe was the food. Apparently the food is arranged by the Showground rather than Warners, which is a shame as the food at Newbury was very good and organised by Warners.

We met up with daisymae and rose94f and bumped into a few other people we knew, including a couple who we met in France last year who were pitched about 3 pitches away from us. 

Now we're looking forward to Lincoln in September. Gluttons for punishment!! 

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Post by mikeyval Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:17 pm

A most enjoyable weekend as posted above.
Cannot comment on food quality as we never purchased any.
However a bigger gripe (not only mine) but a view expressed by many others over the weekend.

The disgusting state of the toilet /shower block, the one nearest to where the Fire Engine was parked on standby.

This toilet block from ceiling to floor is totally filthy. It is in dire need of total refurbishment but failing that a steam jet pressure wash is the next best thing.   The contract 'cleaners' seem to think that a quick swish around with a wet mop, refill the toilet rolls and job done.  The chemical disposal point is quite the worst I have ever seen. It is unfenced and a danger to children especially as the lid was nearly always open

Three Counties Show Ground should be utterly ashamed.

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Post by daisy mae Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:09 am

Rose and I had a fabulous time, cannot comment on the food as we didn`t buy any either.

Also I cannot comment on the toilets / showers as I never used them, but the chemical disposal point was also the worst I have ever seen / used, surely a venue such as this could do better.
Might be an idea if we all write in to complain.

The Lincoln / Norfolk show grounds are better. I am looking forward to Lincoln.

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Post by Traficlady Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:37 am

I think the mobile toilets were probably better than the permanent ones, the ones near us were spotless the whole weekend.

Will look out for you at Lincoln daisy mae.

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Post by rose49f Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:20 am

Had a great time at the show. Lovely weather and company. Daisy mae and I had loads of laughs especially with the group we were camped with. I'm saying nothing about the c and cc 'stalwart' in the Nuevo or grey water.
Lovely to meet up with Trafficlady again with her new husband. Thank you again Nora.
I can't say anything about the loos showers or cdp as try using the ones at music festivals. Blame the campers for leaving the lids open on the cdp not the showground.
Daisy mae and I will certainly meet up again.
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Post by Gromit Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:26 am

It would be interesting to know how many motorhomes and caravans were there, at £58 per unit!!

It comes to a lot of cash, on top of day tickets and the extortionate prices they charge the exhibitors for a little square of grass. It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect half decent facilities, specially when this is only one of many lucrative shows held there every year.

As Nora said, the mobile toilets near us were clean(ish) but there were no brushes for cleaning the pans, even if the user felt inclined to do so. No surprise I guess when the toilet rolls were regularly stolen, as Mrs Gromit noticed on several visits!!! The showers were also very good, but loads of people from the adjoining fields soon caught on, and came in their cars and on bikes to use "our" facilities - not that I blame them.

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Post by Paulmold Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:32 am

I saw an estimate once that the Warner's shows get around 3500 units. Nice little earner.  I must have attended 20 or so shows over the last 8 years of motorhome ownership. Didn't do Malvern this year but have been twice before. I've always found the loo facilities to be clean if you ignore the permanent showground ones. CDP have normally consisted of large 8'x8'x2' high tanks with open holes in the top corners, never seen one with a lid to leave open. As for grey water, in the 'welcome ' pack Warner's have always said that it should be taken home. I think we would all struggle to keep 4 days waste water on board so you see a lot of buckets with holes in the bottom to slowly soak it away. 
I will be at Lincoln show in the C&CC area and will wear my ASOC badge which I made last year so you can say hello or run in the opposite direction.

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Post by mikeyval Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:53 am

Grey water - it was actually in print ?? take it home with you ?
However there were lots of soak-aways in action, including my own. Withholding 4 days grey water is not practical or desirable. Water weighs in at 10lb a gallon so cannot see anyone being willing to cart that around
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Post by Traficlady Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:46 pm

The man next to us put a waste water container under his van but didn't take the lid off. 

We'll be at Lincoln in the C&CC area too so look out for us - I'll have the Flintshire flag flying! Oh, and the Westmorland one, the Welsh one and, if I can find it, the Essex one. We're booked from Friday but will probably go on Thursday because we want to go into Lincoln on Saturday on the bus.

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Post by stoneb Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:59 pm

A great show indeed, but I left it out this year.

The new organisers, Camperex, made it too expensive for me @ £60 for a 4 night weekend on grass, no electric, basic toilets etc.

I shan't mention the weather conditions over previous years when I did go!

I do hope anyone who went enjoyed themselves. But I'll bet the numbers were down.
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Post by Traficlady Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:34 am

I think you'll find it's Warner's. If the numbers were down, I dread to think how far it stretched before!

The weekend fee includes entertainment every night, too, don't forget.

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Post by Paulmold Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:06 am

Yes the Malvern show is still a Warner's one. Camperex do the new Liverpool indoor show and I think they do one at Exeter. The Newark and Kent shows have changed owners and I believe the Newark show was down in both visitors and exhibitors.
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