Water filler point

by SLFPS Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:26 pm

Hi there folks, anyone know what’s going on here

by Peter Brown Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:31 pm

Yes.

Someone has removed the motorised valve that is used to switch on/off the water fill and replace it with a bypass pipe. The unused vale has been tied to the new pipe so that it doesn't get lost.

by kathnige Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:52 pm

Peter Brown wrote:Yes.

Someone has removed the motorised valve that is used to switch on/off the water fill and replace it with a bypass pipe. The unused vale has been tied to the new pipe so that it doesn't get lost.

Does that mean that, in the set up in original post, that the fresh water tank can be filled using an ordinary hose instead of having to use the 12v Whale Aquasource Mains Water Hook Up?

by Peter Brown Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:58 pm

Yes but you'll still need the Whale connector to attach the hose to the fill point.

The motorised valve was controlled by a float switch in the fresh water tank so that when the tank was full it would stop the water flow. That system allowed the fill point to be left permanently co0nnected to a mains water tap that was turned on.

by SLFPS Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:11 pm

Peter Brown wrote:Yes but you'll still need the Whale connector to attach the hose to the fill point

Thanks Peter, if we reconnect the valve and original pipes how do we know when the tank is full ?

by Peter Brown Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:13 pm

see edit on previous post

by Peter Brown Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:15 pm

by SLFPS Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:17 pm

Peter Brown wrote:see edit on previous post

Ok thanks Peter, think we will leave it how it is for the time being

by Peter Brown Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:20 pm

As far as I can see, you still have the 12v supply to the connectors on the filling point to be able to use a pump into a water container but not sure how that supply (and the pump) could be switched on/off

by SLFPS Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:50 pm

Peter Brown wrote:As far as I can see, you still have the 12v supply to the connectors on the filling point to be able to use a pump into a water container but not sure how that supply (and the pump) could be switched on/off

Thanks again Peter, so I only want it to work for top up mainly, we try not to stay on many campsites, are the 12v wires already in place ?

by Peter Brown Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:53 pm

All I'm going by is what I see in you photos, no idea what's now at the other end of those wires?

by SLFPS Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:07 pm

Peter Brown wrote:All I'm going by is what I see in you photos, no idea what's now at the other end of those wires?

I’ll try and put some water in tomorrow via the plug system, oh and been away for Xmas in the van all levels on the Sargent panel work 100,50,25 and so on, still not found out what the toggle switch is for. Thanks for your help

by Caraman Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:34 pm

Some people do remove the solenoid/motorised valve as I have done. The gauze that protects the valve easily becomes clogged with grit and if the assembly is difficult to get at as is the case on mine, removal and cleaning is a pain. If the gauze becomes clogged the fill rate is reduced. I often use an external pump plugged into the socket to fill the freshwater tank from a water barrel. For it to work the external pump has to generate enough water pressure to overcome the pressure switch inside the Whale socket so that power goes to the valve to open it. I found this was stressing the pump. Now as soon as the pump is powered it pumps water into the freshwater tank. When the tank is full, power to the Whale socket is automatically cut which stops the pump.

by SLFPS Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:31 pm

Caraman wrote:Some people do remove the solenoid/motorised valve as I have done. The gauze that protects the valve easily becomes clogged with grit and if the assembly is difficult to get at as is the case on mine, removal and cleaning is a pain. If the gauze becomes clogged the fill rate is reduced. I often use an external pump plugged into the socket to fill the freshwater tank from a water barrel. For it to work the external pump has to generate enough water pressure to overcome the pressure switch inside the Whale socket so that power goes to the valve to open it. I found this was stressing the pump. Now as soon as the pump is powered it pumps water into the freshwater tank. When the tank is full, power to the Whale socket is automatically cut which stops the pump.

by SLFPS Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:33 pm

This is what the van came with, any thoughts on this

SLFPS wrote:

Caraman wrote:Some people do remove the solenoid/motorised valve as I have done. The gauze that protects the valve easily becomes clogged with grit and if the assembly is difficult to get at as is the case on mine, removal and cleaning is a pain. If the gauze becomes clogged the fill rate is reduced. I often use an external pump plugged into the socket to fill the freshwater tank from a water barrel. For it to work the external pump has to generate enough water pressure to overcome the pressure switch inside the Whale socket so that power goes to the valve to open it. I found this was stressing the pump. Now as soon as the pump is powered it pumps water into the freshwater tank. When the tank is full, power to the Whale socket is automatically cut which stops the pump.

by Caraman Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:44 am

Today the A-S comes with a white Whale plug attached to a longer section of food grade hose and then a mains tap connector. Yours has a green Whale plug and appears to have been shortened but the yellow connector you have can be attached to a longer food grade hose. So it's used to fill the freshwater tank from a mains water tap. If the solenoid/motorised valve is disconnected the tank will keep filling until it overflows through the tank's breather. A note of caution. If the mains water pressure is high it can cause the freshwater tank to over pressurise and one of the level sensors to pop out. It's not happened to me but others have reported it. I don't know if your van has a standard filler cap for the freshwater tank. If it does, that's another way of filling the tank. These days I use the standard filler cap if filling the tank from a mains water tap & food grade hose and the Whale socket if filling from a water barrel with an external pump. Many don't bother with a water barrel & pump and just use a watering can to fill the tank through its filler cap.

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