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Post by SLFPS Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:37 pm

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Hello again, I want to fit a 100w solar panel and connect it to the EC328 built in solar controller, can anyone please advise me what the wires are which are already connected. Many thanks


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Post by Tinwheeler Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:42 pm

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Post by SLFPS Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:49 pm

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Post by Roopert Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:52 pm

On the EC328 it's very easy - there is a dedicated 4-way connector for it on the underside - it's the only 4-way connector on the main control unit. You don't even need to open the main unit up.

Sargent sell an appropriate cable - you can buy it directly from their website.
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Post by Peter Brown Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:55 pm

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Post by Peter Brown Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:59 pm

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Post by SLFPS Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:07 pm

Do I already have this installed. Thanks for your help
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Post by Peter Brown Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:10 pm

The socket circled in blue pins 1 and 3 are connected to the input of the solar controller shown in your picture.
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Post by SLFPS Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:13 pm

Peter Brown wrote:The socket circled in blue pins 1 and 3 are connected to the input of the solar controller shown in your picture.
Thanks Peter, so do I just connect the new solar cables to the + and - with the red and black as well
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Post by Peter Brown Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:15 pm

Yes, as Roopert suggest its easiest done via the Sargent cable  https://sargentltd.co.uk/shop/product/solar-connecting-lead-for-ec325-ec328-systems-included-with-sargent-solar-panels/121
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Post by SLFPS Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:29 pm

Thanks again Peter so I get the connector plug it in and where do the other end connect sorry but this is a confusing
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Post by Roopert Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:59 pm

SLFPS wrote:Do I already have this installed.

Do you mean that there is already a plug in the 4-way socket? I don't think this is very unusual on recent vans with no solar panel. As far as I can tell, the loom kit that Sargent supply to A/S is a general-purpose one which includes the solar cable, so in some cases A/S just fit it anyway, and leave it unconnected somewhere.
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Post by Peter Brown Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:08 pm

The black connectors on one end of the interface cable would mate with a solar panel supplied by Sargent. For another type of panel you would cut them off and connect the panel cable to the lead cable with an in line connector.

Based in Bristol you might consider Vanbitz doing an installation for you https://vanbitz.com/
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Post by SLFPS Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:09 pm

Thank you all for your kind comments 
Think I'll get someone to do it
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Post by SLFPS Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:28 pm

Hi Peter in your first picture the 10 pin white connector next to the orange cable is at the back of the boiler hanging loose, is it meant to be connected and what is it for
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Post by Molly3 Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:08 pm

Just out of  interest has anyone swept the original, PWM  for a MPPT  controller?  .
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Post by Peter Brown Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:19 pm

Molly3 wrote:Just out of  interest has anyone swept the original, PWM  for a MPPT  controller?  .

The solar controller pictured in the OP is an excellent (and quite expensive) unit, it kept both my batteries fully charged on the drive all year with an 80W panel and did all I need when on rallies and aires without EHU.
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Post by Roopert Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:02 pm

Molly3 wrote:Just out of  interest has anyone swept the original, PWM  for a MPPT  controller?  .

Yes, I did several years ago, without any significant changes to the wiring.
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Post by SLFPS Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:05 pm

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What’s the difference between the connectors, will the Mc 4 connectors connect to any solar panel, a renogy one as it’s the only size that will fit on the roof
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Post by brianmor Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:58 am

Molly3 wrote:Just out of  interest has anyone swept the original, PWM  for a MPPT  controller?  .
I did a couple of years ago, the original controller wasn't working so i replaced it for a Victron 75/15 MPPT controller and Vanbitz battery master.
If you remove the old controller you'll find you can install both of the new components in its place with tiewraps. I've drilled a couple of 6mm holes in ther cover of the 328 to enable me to see the charging lights.
The advantage of the bluetooth controller is that you can see exactly what's happening with the solar and battery on your phone.
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Post by IanH Tue Nov 26, 2024 3:49 pm

I have only ever used pwm controller on five vans now.
Several reasons 
Easy to get dual battery ones, which I always want.
Cheaper 
Reliable with one exception, not still sure that was the controller fault.

Now before everyone starts on about getting a better output from the panels with mppt, this is true. However as my batteries are invariably fully charged by, say, noon,the panel then spends the rest of the daylight doing nothing unless we're using power. Had it been mppt, the batteries would be full say, 11am then the panel spend rest of day doing nothing!

I rely on simplicity and avoiding any Sargent connection at all!
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Post by Dbvwt Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:14 pm

I fitted a dual MPPT Ian as I’m sure you are aware and don’t regret it, the battery is indeed fully charged in spring/summer/autumn by 11 in the morning as you mention.
The reason for my post though is something that has always bothered me and something you also mention.
Is there actually something we can do with all this wasted energy whether MPPT or PWM  shrugg
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Post by The Bargee Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:33 pm

I had an Eddi Solar Diverter fitted in the new solar installation in our house. This takes excess power from the panels (once the house battery is charged) and sends it to the hot water immersion heater. I guess you could in theory do the same with a Truma and use any excess for hot water and heating  In our house installation we used no gas to heat hot water during the summer and through until late October.

As an add-on to our solar installation this unit (which handles 10kw of solar panels) cost about £500.00. It may be that there is an inexpensive low output diverter on the market but I have not looked. I guess it would need to run through an inverter though.
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Post by SLFPS Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:08 pm

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Hi Peter just received the Sargent cable with the four pin plug and MC4 connectors fitted, removed the ec328 to access the 4 pin socket and there’s already a connector in there which feeds the antenna box, I thought this socket was for a solar panel
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