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Post by CC Tue 15 Oct 2024, 6:57 pm

Have just read this readers article in this months MMM (see photo) & like the reader thought the timing belt was to be changed at 10yrs, but after reading this article it’s as clear as mud as to when it’s actually due, as our Broadway is a 2019 model I’m now thinking the timing belt interval could be sooner than I anticipated, has anyone had their belt changed on the 160bhp Boxer & at how many years? I seem to recall we may have a sheet tucked away in our paperwork with a service schedule but haven’t attempted to dig it out from wherever it is, but reading this in MMM just seems to make it very unclear therefore I wondered if anyone here could be a bit more accurate as to when it’s due?

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Post by Askit Tue 15 Oct 2024, 8:08 pm

I've been trying to check this out for weeks as our van will be 10 years old next year. The handbook doesn't give any indication of a schedule and my contact with Peugeot 'pushed' me towards downloading their app. They said it would give me the answer, well it didn't. I emailed customer services via the app to get an answer, I've had three holding responses with the last, a week ago, promising a reply when the sender gets confirmation from a technical source. The article you've posted is the closest I've got to a definitive answer.

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Post by Paulmold Tue 15 Oct 2024, 8:31 pm

Askit  - what engine is yours?

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Post by The Bargee Tue 15 Oct 2024, 10:07 pm

If CC’s van is 2019 and 160 hp I think it will be the 160 Blue HDi. I was just thinking today, driving back from leafy Surrey, what an excellent torquey engine it is, that coming from somebody used to rather bigger engines in cars.

I suspect that it is impossible to be definitive about how long a cam belt will last. Does it actually wear out? Does it denature due to lack of use & too long static in one position? Is lack of use better or worse than lots of use, and so on. It is a guessing game. Usage can vary so much.

I have avoided belt cam vehicles successfully for a long time now, but for the present van I had little choice. I now have (I think) my first belt cam engine ever (160 Blue HDi) bought at 3 years old and 6500 miles. I intend to change the belt at around 50,000 miles, which at the present rate will be around 6 years from new, I.e. next year. I suspect that is not unreasonable, but who knows really? You might be able to risk longer, but my rather modified vehicle would be a PITA to replicate, and barring incident may well see me out so well worth taking care of!
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Post by Askit Tue 15 Oct 2024, 10:14 pm

Paulmold wrote:Askit  - what engine is yours?
2.2 HDi, 150bhp I think  scratch head

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Post by Paulmold Tue 15 Oct 2024, 10:27 pm

Are you sure it's a belt and not a chain? My 2.2 is a chain.

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Post by Askit Tue 15 Oct 2024, 10:54 pm

Paulmold wrote:Are you sure it's a belt and not a chain? My 2.2 is a chain.

That's the kind of information I was hoping Peugeot would give me. Unfortunately the main Peugeot dealership I was using will no longer offer service. I gave Peugeot my vin number as requested and..........who knows. Does the chain still need replaced?

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Post by Paulmold Tue 15 Oct 2024, 11:06 pm

No, the chain does not require replacement as part of scheduled service.

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Post by Askit Tue 15 Oct 2024, 11:41 pm

Paulmold wrote:No, the chain does not require replacement as part of scheduled service.

Thanks, I'll give Peugeot a few more days to respond.

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Post by IanH Wed 16 Oct 2024, 12:09 am

Re cambelts, I know chains are mentioned above, this is just me re belts...

If a cambelt breaks the cam stops and the pistons keep moving thereby colliding with the valves which are held still by the stationary camshaft(s).

This means that all valves that were open will need to be replaced, the pistons that hit them ditto, the connecting rods may be bent too, as may the crankshaft.

Or, in simpler terms, a complete engine rebuild.

So, any vehicle I buy, regardless of history, including receipts etc, gets a new cambelt asap, and it has to be a complete GATES kit too, including, if necessary the water pump and tensioner pulleys etc+.

Then that one gets replaced at no more than half the manufacturer replacement mileage recommendation. Especially in a little used or irregularly used vehicle such as a motorhome which has the belt in a fixed position for months at a time......

My cost, roughly £350 per belt change. My peace of mind, worth a lot more.....
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Post by Caraman Wed 16 Oct 2024, 1:08 am

CC,

This is a photo of the servicing schedule printed off for my 2019 Boxer by a Peugeot dealer.  Sorry its on its side.  It shows replacement on time or mileage whichever comes first.  I wont achieve 96k or 87.5k miles so for me its 10 years.  Nick Fisher from MMM has not read the servicing schedule properly as it explains when 87.5k mies is appropriate.

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Post by CC Thu 17 Oct 2024, 6:52 pm

Thanks Caraman…  I have a schedule the same as that tucked away just as soon as I can find it to double check, anyway thanks for sharing as the 10yrs is what I expected. 

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Post by Cymro Thu 17 Oct 2024, 7:58 pm

Paulmold wrote:Are you sure it's a belt and not a chain? My 2.2 is a chain.
 My individual service schedule sheet (came inside the service booklet) describes my engine on a 2015 Nuevo ES as follows: "Boxer 3 - Diesel Turbo Puma C96 Euro5 130HP".

I understand that to mean that I'd the Ford Puma engine, 130HP, and I understand that my engine has a timing chain (not a bel) which does not normally need to be renewed periodically.

But if I'm wrong, and that engine has a belt not a chain, please tell me because a replacement belt and associated kit would otherwise be due next year. 

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Post by Askit Thu 17 Oct 2024, 8:06 pm

Askit wrote:
Paulmold wrote:No, the chain does not require replacement as part of scheduled service.

Thanks, I'll give Peugeot a few more days to respond.

I've just had a reply from Peugeot customers services and they've confirmed that, indeed, we have the 2.2 hdi 150bhp Puma engine which does have a timing chain.

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Post by Paulmold Thu 17 Oct 2024, 8:09 pm

That confirms it for Cymro as well then, mine is also a Ford Puma engine with chain.

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Post by Askit Thu 17 Oct 2024, 8:12 pm

Thanks Paul, they also confirmed it is not part of the service schedule as you said.

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Post by Duncan2017 Mon 28 Oct 2024, 1:56 pm

We have a 1997 Executive. Our garage told us the cam belt was due at 72,000 miles or ten years. We haven't done anyway near the 72,000 miles but the 10 years was nearly up so we booked it in. They managed to change the cam belt but couldn't change anything else, tensioners, etc. as they are no longer available, even from Peugeots. With the van being over 20 years old spares are getting to be a problem.
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Post by njr001 Sun 03 Nov 2024, 8:58 pm

The Ford Puma engine does have a crankshaft pulley with a rubber insert which can breakdown see Topic Warwick Duo 2011 Oil Leak damage. IMPORTANT. in the Van Conversions Section. As my vehicle was 15 years old I decided on replacement as a precaution
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Post by IanH Mon 04 Nov 2024, 7:46 am

Duncan2017 wrote:We have a 1997 Executive. Our garage told us the cam belt was due at 72,000 miles or ten years. We haven't done anyway near the 72,000 miles but the 10 years was nearly up so we booked it in. They managed to change the cam belt but couldn't change anything else, tensioners, etc. as they are no longer available, even from Peugeots. With the van being over 20 years old spares are getting to be a problem.
I am more than sure there is a full GATES cambellt kit for my engine, that's what was fitted when I got it.
My engine is a Peugeot 2.8Hdi.
Contact Gates direct imho....
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