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Post by George colin on Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:43 pm

Two questions:
1).  Can anyone advise where the water pump is situated.
2). Is there any way to remove the wardrobe drawer to gain easier access to the water heater and other equipment.
Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you.
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Post by marconi on Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:28 pm

George colin wrote:Two questions:
1).  Can anyone advise where the water pump is situated.
2). Is there any way to remove the wardrobe drawer to gain easier access to the water heater and other equipment.
Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you.

I thought someone with a Nuevo of the same era would have popped up.

I don't think a lot has changed over the years though.

The water pump as standard is a Whale Submersible mounted in the Water Tank.

The Wardrobe Drawer removes like the others pull out and lift and wriggle. Having the front at an angle the two runners are different lengths which makes it a bit of a knack. Plus many of us have found that when it was first fitted considerable force was used, you may have to to do the same to remove it. If you find it is catching at the top of the opening like mine was it needs a little wood removed from the opening to make it easier.

A search should reveal threads on both subjects.
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Post by Gromit on Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:20 pm

This is how I modified ours, and it now comes out and goes back in quite easily.

The butchery doesn't show at all, as the drawer doesn't pull out far enough to reveal it.

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Post by George colin on Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:44 pm

marconi wrote:
George colin wrote:Two questions:
1).  Can anyone advise where the water pump is situated.
2). Is there any way to remove the wardrobe drawer to gain easier access to the water heater and other equipment.
Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you.

I thought someone with a Nuevo of the same era would have popped up.

I don't think a lot has changed over the years though.

The water pump as standard is a Whale Submersible mounted in the Water Tank.

The Wardrobe Drawer removes like the others pull out and lift and wriggle. Having the front at an angle the two runners are different lengths which makes it a bit of a knack. Plus many of us have found that when it was first fitted considerable force was used, you may have to to do the same to remove it. If you find it is catching at the top of the opening like mine was it needs a little wood removed from the opening to make it easier.

A search should reveal threads on both subjects.
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Post by George colin on Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:54 pm

marconi wrote:
George colin wrote:Two questions:
1).  Can anyone advise where the water pump is situated.
2). Is there any way to remove the wardrobe drawer to gain easier access to the water heater and other equipment.
Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you.

I thought someone with a Nuevo of the same era would have popped up.

I don't think a lot has changed over the years though.

The water pump as standard is a Whale Submersible mounted in the Water Tank.

The Wardrobe Drawer removes like the others pull out and lift and wriggle. Having the front at an angle the two runners are different lengths which makes it a bit of a knack. Plus many of us have found that when it was first fitted considerable force was used, you may have to to do the same to remove it. If you find it is catching at the top of the opening like mine was it needs a little wood removed from the opening to make it easier.

A search should reveal threads on both subjects.
Q.   I’ve tried removing the drawer as suggested with no luck. I put as much force as I though necessary without wrecking the drawer but nothing happens. Just can’t see how it comes out. Any further suggestions appreciated.
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Post by marconi on Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:18 pm

The fitter who fitted my drawer, and the same for those of several other owners, used undue force to fit the drawer. In my case he first moved a drawer runner retaining screw to another hole. When he finally forced it in the timber that holds the drawer runner split. This was the sort of force I had to use to remove it.

Gromit's picture shows what he did to make the drawer easily removable.

Are the side rails of yours hitting the top of the surround when you lift it, if so you have the same problem. Brute force I think is the only solution then either do Gromit's cutting or take a couple of millimetres off the surround, that is all it took for mine.

Otherwise have you practiced the process on one of the other drawers. to get the initial knack on a straight fronted drawer.


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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:19 pm

The large under berth drawer on mine is of the jiggle type to lift the carriage wheels out of the runners.

Smaller cabinet drawer needs to have the side fixings in the drawer side removed to get it out then slide carcass off the runners. Yours may be like this. 2 fixings/side

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Post by Gromit on Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:41 pm

Yes Peter, I was about to say the same.

To get mine out originally I had to take the screws out of the rail on one side ot the drawer. The right side as you face it is best, as you can get at more screws.

From memory I couldn't get at the last one, but the rail pivoted so I could remove the drawer.

After that, do the surgery I posted earlier and there's no further problem.

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Post by George colin on Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:32 am

Thank you one and all for your helpful advice on removing the drawer at the base of the wardrobe. 
I have tried the suggested methods all to no avail. The reason being I’m concerned I’m going to wreck the drawer so I guess I shall just have to work over the opened drawer. 
Autosleeper gave me more or less the same advice.
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Post by Gromit on Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:31 am

You are very unlikely to wreck the drawer, but you might not improve the fixings for the rails that the drawer rails slide into. (Does that make sense?)

That would not be a disaster as they are only bits of wood screwed onto the cabinet sides, and could be easily replaced.

The difficulty is getting the rollers over the last little bit as you remove the drawer. When I did ours I removed as many screws as I could get to on the rails fixed to the drawer sides, and forced the right hand roller out by twisting the drawer. Then the other side came out quite easily as there was room to tilt and jiggle the drawer.

I wasn't happy with the alignment or spacing of the rails fixed to the cabinet sides, so they were adjusted for a far better fit. Then the surgery (see my earlier photo) and now the drawer removes with no effort at all.

Grit your teeth and have a go. Woodwork is the easiest medium to fix if you do cause it a mischief. If the screw holes in the drawer are damaged, just drill the rails and fit the screws back again in new holes. None of the bodging will be visible when it's all back together, and it will be a far better job than the A/S assembly workers did!
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Post by George colin on Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:23 am

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Post by George colin on Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:26 am

Thanks Gromit,
Think I’m getting a better picture of how to remove the drawer. 
I’ve posted a pic of the drawer.
Do I need to remove the screws on the runner before demolition.?
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Post by Gromit on Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:17 am

George colin wrote:Thanks Gromit,
Think I’m getting a better picture of how to remove the drawer. 
I’ve posted a pic of the drawer.
Do I need to remove the screws on the runner before demolition.?
Yes, as many as you can get at.

If there is only one at the front which is hidden, and you remove all the others, the runner will then pivot on that last screw and make removal far easier.

I'm relying on the ancient memory here, but I think there's only the one screw you can't get at - on one side or the other, and maybe both if you are lucky! (Sorry I'm being a bit vague, but it's a long time since I did it.)

Good luck.  up!
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:11 am

Remove three screws each side and pull drawer off runners in the recesses.

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Post by marconi on Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:12 am

George colin wrote:Thanks Gromit,
Think I’m getting a better picture of how to remove the drawer. 
I’ve posted a pic of the drawer.
Do I need to remove the screws on the runner before demolition.?

I like the way these threads evolve, its gone from Water to Drawers, some complain about that. smile!

Sorry George you have a different type of runner from me, and Gromit I think.

Our runners have nylon rollers and one part remains on the drawer. Those you have you need to remove all the screws on both sides and both parts of the runner stay attached to the framework of the opening. No amount of pulling or jiggling would have got the drawer out.

Once the screws are removed the runner should be free to slide back in or the drawer pull right out leaving the runner behind.

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Just as Ploughlin said but my electrons took 60 seconds longer to traverse the internet.
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Post by Gromit on Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:11 pm

Thanks Marconi - I didn't look closely enough at the photo.  :0_blush:

Either way, if George removes all the screws he can get at, the drawer should be removable, one way or another.
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Post by George colin on Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:43 pm

Thanks for partaking  in mystery of the drawer removal. All solved though I think the design is left wanting.
Thanks guys. 
I will be back sometime a  fire problem I am experiencing so watch this space up!
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