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Post by Paulmold on Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:56 pm

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Post by Peter Brown on Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:25 pm

Thanks Paul
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Post by rgermain on Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:20 pm

Thank you Paul.

It had to come one day, shame, however I have never been able to get booked in on the dates I want.

Maybe they will find a site O/S the proposed clean air zone.
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Post by Eltel on Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:35 am

I did manage three nights there in 2018 and its looked a bit tired and probably needed a freshen up.

But with the constant threats of the site being redeveloped and now the emissions issue I feel a move to a newer location outside the emissions area on a city bus route will be the way forward.

There is a similar issue with CCC site in Oxford regarding long term availability of the rented land 

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Post by rgermain on Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:45 am

Point taken, but would you invest on improvements when the lease is on a 6 month renewal.

I am not defending the Club, but as it is always full, what do you expect.

Shame as it is within walking distance of Bristol.
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PS by the way, I have never been able to book on dates wanted, so talking a bit blind as usual.
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Post by AndyPK on Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:53 pm

We’re going on the 19th Jan for a few nights, so looks as if it’ll be our only visit........
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Post by harrysp on Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:12 am

Several years since we've been.  Great location. I wonder will more sites in urban areas where the land is leased go to the house building boom. I think CMC own the land at Rowntree Park in York, but CCC at Oxford comes to mind although not sure if they own the land.

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Post by Dbvwt on Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:27 am

If the Oxford site goes the same way, I can see that old Go Outdoors in front of the site relocating to a nice shiny retail park at the same time.
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Post by nuevoboy on Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:32 am

Yes, such a shame as it's one of our favourite sites.
I just wonder where the CM&C will be able to afford to either rent or purchase any land within a decent distance of the city.
Ah well, we'll see if we could possibly purchase one of the new penthouses at the equivalent of £30 per night. snigger
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Post by Eltel on Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:00 pm

rgermain wrote:Point taken, but would you invest on improvements when the lease is on a 6 month renewal.

I am not defending the Club, but as it is always full, what do you expect.

Shame as it is within walking distance of Bristol.
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PS by the way, I have never been able to book on dates wanted, so talking a bit blind as usual.
Hi Richard

No - I’m not saying they should invest on Baltic Wharf, but look for another location on a bus route.

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Post by Eltel on Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:02 pm

harrysp wrote:Several years since we've been.  Great location. I wonder will more sites in urban areas where the land is leased go to the house building boom. I think CMC own the land at Rowntree Park in York, but CCC at Oxford comes to mind although not sure if they own the land.
My understanding is the site owners are “Go Outdoors” which is adjacent to the site and the CCC site is behind there shop.

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Post by Peter Brown on Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:51 pm

At Oxford, I believe that the council own the site. There were plans to improve the site about 7 years ago (ish) but were deferred due to uncertain lease negotiations at the time. I guess same again.
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Post by harrysp on Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:53 pm

One of our neighbours here (Spain) lives near to Baltic Wharf and tells us the CMC we’re looking at an alternative piece of land to develop a site. He didn’t have any further information but I can’t imagine it will be as well located.

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Post by rgermain on Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:56 pm

Eltel wrote:
rgermain wrote:Point taken, but would you invest on improvements when the lease is on a 6 month renewal.

I am not defending the Club, but as it is always full, what do you expect.

Shame as it is within walking distance of Bristol.
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PS by the way, I have never been able to book on dates wanted, so talking a bit blind as usual.
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No - I’m not saying they should invest on Baltic Wharf, but look for another location on a bus route.

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Eltel,

I thought you said it could do with freshening up, guess that involves money, hence my post.
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Post by Paulmold on Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:10 pm

When Baltic Wharf was first rumoured to be closing  (back in 2016) this report regarding a new site appeared....


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Post by harrysp on Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:23 am

Sounds like that’s a non starter then, if it’s the place he was referring to.

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Post by nuevoboy on Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:50 am

We've managed (incredibly) to get a four night slot next month.
Will certainly miss visiting in the future.
And from Paul's last posting above, it confirms my suspicions that the C&MC will have one heck of a job finding an alternative.
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Post by rgermain on Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:20 am

We have family in Bristol, they say it is constantly in the press etc.

Not a matter of if but when.
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Post by bolero boy on Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:40 pm

Eltel wrote:
harrysp wrote:Several years since we've been.  Great location. I wonder will more sites in urban areas where the land is leased go to the house building boom. I think CMC own the land at Rowntree Park in York, but CCC at Oxford comes to mind although not sure if they own the land.
My understanding is the site owners are “Go Outdoors” which is adjacent to the site and the CCC site is behind there shop.

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Terry,your understanding is correct....Go Outdoors are the landlords.
i was talking to the wardens there last year and they get a fair bit of criticism re the facilities but i was told the Club wont invest as the rolling renewing lease is very short.
Shame, as like many sites mentioned in this thread they are very handy for town visiting and, Baltic Wharf especially, reminds us of a large French city aire....that happens to have a shower block.

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Post by nuevoboy on Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:13 pm

Yup, I agree, Baltic Wharf won't win any glam competitions and neither will Cardiff Caravan Park, where we're off to next week.
However, we can put up with the dated facilities in order to have central access to both those wonderful cities.
Mind you, it's been announced this week that there's likely to be a congestion charge for Cardiff city centre soon, so that one might be out too.
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