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Post by raymondo on Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:23 am

Im thinking of fitting spring assisters (not air assist) to my 2008 Nuevo, there seems to be two systems which, as you might expect, are approximately the same price (and coincidentally the same price as air assist).

Does any one have any experience of them? are they worth the money? would air assist be better?
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Post by PennyandDerek on Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:00 pm

Raymondo,

A heck of a lot of us are out here, driving our Nuevos (in all their various guises) without the need for any form of suspension assistance.

Obviously, you have a problem that you are trying to correct.
Perhaps you could let us know the nature of the issue and then we can all dive in with our two-pennyworth.

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Post by burlingtonboaby on Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:53 pm

Hi Ray
We had Alko air top air rides fitted to my 09 Nuevo and noticed the improvement straight away.
I have changed vans now and a have a different make fitted on my Sigma, longer van with a nice smooth ride.
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Post by raymondo on Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:17 am

thanks both.

No I dont have a problem which I am trying to correct - at least I dont think I have a problem.
My Nuevo like everyone elses has cart spring suspension designed for use in a light goods vehicle, an application for which Im sure it is perfectly adequate, its just that I dont use my Nuevo as a light goods vehicle.

Im just trying to raise the ride quality of my van above adequate.


There is a choice between air assist and spring assist and I like the idead of "fit and forget" offered by springs - no leaks, no punctured or perished air bags although I must admit that the ability offered by air to tweek it until it is just right is attractive
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Post by roli on Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:59 am

I like air assisted suspension and would fit either Airide or Drive right systems or similar set ups but to answer your question

When we towed caravans I thought 2 of our towcars needed suspension improvements when solo or towing. Both worked well

On the Granada Estate I fitted Grayston Spring Assisters which are easily slid between the turns on the coils, they didn't need a mortgage to buy or take ages to fit.
On the Volvo S7 Estate I took the adjustable shock absorber route which took a bit longer to fit and were more expensive

Both were lower in cost than air suspension

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Post by CC on Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:38 pm

Id just get a set of Alko Air Rides fitted at Auto-Sleepers youd be amazed at the difference it makes to the ride as well as lifting the back end up and preventing sagging which you'll get without them... (We paid less than £400 for them to supply and fit ours) Dont know why Auto Sleepers didnt just fit these as standard and factor it in to the price for what little they pay!

Ive seen Nuevo's and other similar models on our travels and they appear to almost be sitting on the ground at the rear, which must make roundabouts and over taking an absolute nightmare! I would think by adding spring assisters would just put the already weak springs under even more stress and more like to snap on a bad pothole like they used to in the old'un days  shrugg

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Post by raymondo on Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:45 pm

CC £400 is about the cost of spring assisters (supply and fit).

the assisters I have seen are coil springs which sit between the leaf spring and the chassis- in the same position as air assist air bags would sit so I dont think that they would put any extra strain on the existing set up.

the coils lift the back end slightly, increase suspension travel and firm up the back end, my Nuevo like Im sure most others when fully laden has the rear supension sitting almost on the stops - not as bad as some MHs Ive seen but still not ideal.

Roli i think what you are referring to are the bands which hold the individual coils of a coil spring open what I am talking about is an addition coil spring fittind within the arc of the leaf spring
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Post by CC on Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:53 pm

Ah sorry I misunderstood I thought you mentioned the bolt on type that just gave the leafs a little extra strength and lift, they were common back in the 80's

Id still personally go for Air Suspension as it cushions and softens the harsh ride of the Boxers base, the system you desribe sounds like it just uprates the suspension so you'll still feel all the road bumps and pot holes surely?

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Post by raymondo on Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:24 pm

so you'll still feel all the road bumps and pot holes surely

Dont know ......thats why Im asking!!!!


 Im pretty much undecided between air and spring, I can see advantages and disadvantages to both but I do think that the basic light goods vehicle suspension as fitted leaves a lot to be desired when used on what is suposed to be a high end motorhome (although it seems that many are satisfied with it!)
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Post by burlingtonboaby on Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:47 pm

One other advantage with air ride suspension is that you can adjust the height on either side of the van to help when levelling up.
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Post by modelman on Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:28 pm

I stuck these on mine, the difference is amazing, easily fitted, easily adjusted, 'sagging' & rock & rolling completely gone, best thing I ever did.

 
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:31 pm

burlingtonboaby wrote:Hi Ray
We had Alko air top air rides fitted to my 09 Nuevo and noticed the improvement straight away.
I have changed vans now and a have a different make fitted on my Sigma, longer van with a nice smooth ride.
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Have just had Dunlop system fitted to my Gloucester. Any advice on the pressure to use as a starting point?
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Post by burlingtonboaby on Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:55 pm

I had my Nuevo set at 2bar, my Sigma is set at 3 bar, your van would be longer than my Sigma, try it at about 3 to 4 bar. Hope that helps you a wee bit.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:00 pm

Thanks boaby, I'll give that a try.

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Post by DuxDeluxe on Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:42 pm

It is a case of trial and error. In old money we used 30psi on the Pilote which made a massive difference to the ride. Since reduced to 25psi as the van is nose down anyway. Got ours from Marcle leisure and self fitted (confession - son in law did it and I made the tea) in about 2 hours. Well worth it

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Post by mikethebike on Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:53 am

I agree with CC. I have fitted air suspension as i was on the bump stops all the time.Much improved ride even with only 20 to 25 psi.


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Post by steve00136 on Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:00 pm

A friend of mine with a 57 plate nuevo EK has just had an air ride system fitted to the rear suspension as the van was sitting very low on the rear. We checked under my 59 plate lancashire  EK as it was sitting level as thought it may have had some mod already fitted.
Surprised to see that my suspension is twin leaf both sides compared to his single leaf suspension.
This could explain why we have noted a lot of the mk2 nuevo's that seem low at the back - AS or peugeot must have changed the spec of the 3300 chassis at some stage to a more beefed up suspension.
Can anyone else confirm this!

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