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Post by pat and jim on Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:02 pm

Problem with Sigma spare wheel. cant get it back on.


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Post by Gram on Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:06 pm

Jim, maybe a bit more detail would be useful to people trying to help.

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Post by nuevoboy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:43 pm

Jim's probably in a bit of a panic as he can't get the wheel back on.
However, if it came off, it should go back on.

I think the problem with the Sigma is to do with the side skirt around the wheel arch being large and low.
One of the guys in ATS told me they had major problems changing some of the wheels on similar 'vans.
I'm sure he said they had to jack the 'van up by the axle and not the specified jacking point.
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Post by pat and jim on Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:44 pm

Hi Gram thanks for coming back  I amtaking the wheels off to check brakes  etc and paint the wheels front no problem   Jacked up the body on jacking point till both near side wheels were of the ground .Still had a job to remove the rear wheel had to spring panel to free the wheel .Replacing the wheel was near  impossible not enough space between the hub and the panel had to use brute force to get it on again I'm pretty good with tools and have a good workshop how I would do this at the side of the road I don't now even theAA would have a problem
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Post by pat and jim on Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:06 pm

Hi Nuevoboy  thanks for coming back you mention back axle i read on one of the forums of tyre filters using a trolley jack and a bottle jack.I wonder if They put the bottle jack between the axle and the chassis to push down the hub to get more clearance .That would make sence but I would not want to do that at the roadsid.   Jim
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Post by Gram on Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:11 pm

Nuevoboy recognised the problem straight away.
Sorry I can't help with the solution.
There must be others who have come across this.
Sounds like you succeeded in replacing the wheel - well done.

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Post by roli on Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:58 am

When I had the new tyres fitted to the Windsor apart from the 2 jacks used by the tyre fitters I inflated the airides and it was them that made life easier. Its a pity designers of these vans don't use them.
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Post by pat and jim on Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:15 pm

Hi Roger thantks if using your air suspension would possibly be the same as a small bottle jack between the axle and the chassis to push the hub down and give more room between the hub and body.This would mean twisting the anti roll bar slightly and is there enough slack on the shock absorber to allow this .I want to find a method so when it happens I now Howe to advise the poor person who has to do it possibly at the Side of the road   scratch head
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Post by deka on Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:51 pm

I spoke to Mark Burdett at Auto-Sleeper today on this subject and he advised me to use a trolley jack on the rear spring but at the front of the spring where it bolts onto the chassis, This allows the body to go up and the wheel to drop down, Just keep jacking until the wheel clears the ground. I tried this with my 2ton trolley jack and found it works but I think a 3 ton jack would be far safer. I don't know how this would fair if you had air bag suspension fitted in ref to,"would the air rides ect stretch that far",??  I'm still trying to find that out. Hope this helps. Deka
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Post by burlingtonboaby on Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:17 pm

Hi Deka
My rear suspension sits at 2 bar at the moment with plenty of clearance to get the rear wheels off.
I tried to remove them when I first purchased the van and had one hell of a job.
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Post by deka on Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:48 pm

Thanks Boaby for the info, I was also told today that if I have heavy duty Firestone air bags fitted that will solve the problem of the rear wheels on the Sigma. so I've booked in on Monday to have them fitted and hopefully that will solve all my problems. " well nearly all " I'll let you know how I get on, Cheers Derek.
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Post by deka on Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:41 pm

Hi, I've just got back from having my heavy duty Firestone air bags fitted, The fitter left me with 60lb in them " far too hard " I'll have to drop them down at least 20lb. When I pump them up to 100lb max I am just about 1" short of clearing the strengtheners  on the inside of the wheel arch of getting the wheel off, Hopefully the tyre man can work his way round that when I go to have my new tyres fitted on Thursday." I'll let you know then." I had the Air bags fitted by Ken Rose, from Warrington 01925838900 or 07503171601. I think this was the guy Roli put me onto. He did a brilliant job and a good price. Very pleased. Deka.  allthumbz
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Post by burlingtonboaby on Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:43 pm

Hi Derek
You will find the road handling greatly improved now you have your air suspension fitted.
Hope your tyre guy is successful in your tyre change over.
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Post by deka on Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:03 pm

Yes and me, I'f he can't I've got a good jigsaw. Cheers Derek
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Post by deka on Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:10 am

Tyres fitted and all ready to go, ( No problem )  215/70/15 cp. 65lb rear  60lb front, 35lb in the air bags totally different ride  allthumbz
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