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Why you need a dashcam.

Post by boxerman on Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:48 pm

On our way to Block & Quayles establishment today:



What isn't noticable is how sharply I had to brake, the poor guy behind almost rammed into the back of me. Fortunately he saw enough to know it wasn't my fault.
She never even looked my way! didn't stop, just carried on as if nothing had happened.

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by mikejack on Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:58 pm

Sorry Frank missed your pm the other day here are 2 shots of where mine is located and a short video clip. It picks up my mirror bracket bottom left of the video but i like the cam in this position as its out the way.



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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by boxerman on Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:23 pm

Thanks Mike  up!  needless to say, mine's on order  snigger 

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PS recognised the Lytham "aire". did you stop?
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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by mikejack on Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:42 pm

Yes we go up there quite a lot with it being local as the missus only finishes work at 7pm so its handy for the weekend 45minutes up the motorway.

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by boxerman on Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:24 pm

Have you tried viewing your files in Registrator Viewer? http://www.registratorviewer.com/index_en.html

Interesting bit of software and FREE  content 

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by Traficlady on Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:15 pm

There is a dash cam advertised in the Caravan Club mag which says it records 8 hours on a 32 gb card, which I thought was useful information.

My dash cam records in shortish segments, about 10-15 mintues by the look of it.

I've had trouble finding a suitable place for it in the van. It hangs down from the sucker so, if I put it on the dashboard, the wipers take up nearly half the picture. I looked at the settings and you can turn it upside down but, when I connected it to the computer, the recording was upside down too. I raised it up a few inches up the windscreen and I think it's not bad there. I only got back home at lunchtime today after a fortnight so haven't connected it to the computer yet.

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by boxerman on Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:29 pm

Traficlady wrote:There is a dash cam advertised in the Caravan Club mag which says it records 8 hours on a 32 gb card, which I thought was useful information.
That's going to be pretty low resolution, I think the Mobius does about 3.5 hours on a 32gb card @ 1080p highest res.
Have you got the make & model - price would be interesting too.

My dash cam records in shortish segments, about 10-15 mintues by the look of it.
Can you not alter it? mine's on 3 minutes

I've had trouble finding a suitable place for it in the van. It hangs down from the sucker so, if I put it on the dashboard, the wipers take up nearly half the picture. I looked at the settings and you can turn it upside down but, when I connected it to the computer, the recording was upside down too. I raised it up a few inches up the windscreen and I think it's not bad there. I only got back home at lunchtime today after a fortnight so haven't connected it to the computer yet.

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That's one of the trickiest bits, figuring out where to mount it. Up near the rear view mirror seems favourite but I like mine on the top of the dash.

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by Spospe on Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:11 pm

Just out of interest, you may like to know that Which? is going to review dash cameras in their August 2014 issue. I have no idea at all at this time which models, or what the recommendations / best buys will be.
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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by boxerman on Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:02 pm

Prefer to trust Techmoan.
I used to get "Which" but fell out with it. Many moons ago they ran a test of 125cc motorcycles tested by people who weren't motorcyclists (car drivers with Provisional bike licence"built in"). The results were laughable as the testers didn't know anything about the things they were testing.

I thought that if this is an example of their testing regime, I'd rather trust my own judgement or that of someone who knows what they are talking about.

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by boxerman on Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:29 pm

New Mini 0803 dashcam arrived today  smile!  I had thought about mounting it where the Mobius is but the angle of view is so much greater than the Mobius that there was too much of the van's dash showing. I mounted it on the windscreen, almost behind the mirror, with just the bottom half showing. The angle of view takes in almost the full width of the screen. There is quite a bit of reflection from the screen, don't know that I can do anything about that  scratch head 

The video quality is very good, perhaps as good as the Mobius. haven't tried the 1296P, just the 1080P which is plenty good enough. One thing it has over the Mobius is that the clips run together seamlessly, the Mobius repeats a frame or two at the start of each new clip. (better than missing frames out though).

Been to the hospital and back today so I've been running the files on Registrator Viewer. I originally set the clip length to 1 minute but I've now set it to 3. The writing on the setup menu is very small and I haven't worked out how you calibrate the G sensor yet. Haven't bothered with the lane departure warning. Not overkeen on the squawks it makes - can't call them bleeps  biggrin 
The GPS seems to be very accurate as far as positioning but not too good for speed. On a couple of occasions where I'm obviously stopped, its showing a speed of 1 or 2 mph.

Looked at the supplied software but decided I preferred Registrator Viewer so deleted it from the card.

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by Backtrax on Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:34 pm

Boxerman, my Mini 0803 dashcam arrived yesterday also. This is my first dash cam so currently playing about with it on bench whilst watching techomoan demo of it. Am interested about your tips positioning. I had thought in my 2010 Peugeot Boxer that it would be high enough if on the windscreen just above the dash level.
Re 1 to 2 mph when stopped. We also have a GPS detector which we use on an pc running Autoroute. It also 'wanders' a bit whilst stationary and this would manifest itself as a low speed.
Where do you get registrator viewer to see the video's?
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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by inspiredron on Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:22 pm

Backtrax wrote:
Where do you get registrator viewer to see the video's?
Try Google! It is the first hit!

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by boxerman on Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:47 pm

The Mobius was on the dash top, as here:


But as I said, in this position, the wider angle of view of the 0803 took in too much of the dash top.
This is where I decided to put it. (waiting for the arrival of some stick-back cable clips to tidy things up) Not in my normal line of sight but I can see it if I look at it IYSWIM?


This gives you an idea of the camera view fom this position:


HTH
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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by Backtrax on Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:56 pm

Thx Frank.
Will give the higher position behind mirror a go

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by chrisvesey on Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:10 am

hi,
I fit mine on the right hand side of the scree about six inches up from dash, the wipers are not visible there, seems OK and not so far to fall if it drops off. Mine was £36 from e prance and is moved between my three vehicles,
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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by Dutto on Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:04 am

mikejack wrote:Sorry Frank missed your pm the other day here are 2 shots of where mine is located and a short video clip. It picks up my mirror bracket bottom left of the video but i like the cam in this position as its out the way.



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Mike,

Recognise the footage!  Lytham St. Annes??

We were there on the 11th June when they were putting up the fence round the building site on the left as you turn into the parking place.

Best regards,
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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by Backtrax on Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:29 am

Frank, re Mobius Mini 0803 dash cam - I have a couple of problems.
1. I have selected the mic to be muted (Red diagomal line across the mic icon), but when making recordings in this state the mic is still active.
For comparison I have done recordings with the red diagonal line 'off' and still the mic is active.

2. When I attach the cam to a pc USB port (Win XP os), Win Explorer shows 2 'removable disk drives' are created. The first cannot be accessed, the second contains the cam folders and any files (recorded pics or videos).
On the cam the screen shows 'USB connecting' and none of the control buttons are active.

When repeating all above on another pc, running Win 7 os, the same thing happens except there is only 1 'removable disk' visible in Explorer which contains the cam folders & files.

Further info, the cam menu screen shows the software version to be FW20140510
v1.0

When I transfer the file to pc and use Registrator Viewer the file is good and that software is excellent.

Is anyone else having the problems described above?
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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by mikejack on Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:50 pm

Must have just missed you Ian that was Friday 13th June. Only used my cam on windows 8 so can't comment on the 2 folders but have noticed the microphone bug and i think techmoan mentions it on his review. The software is very good but you need a good pc to play it back or its all jumpy.

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by boxerman on Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:35 pm

Backtrax wrote:Frank, re Mobius Mini 0803 dash cam - I have a couple of problems.
1. I have selected the mic to be muted (Red diagomal line across the mic icon), but when making recordings in this state the mic is still active.
For comparison I have done recordings with the red diagonal line 'off' and still the mic is active.
A known issue in the firmware

2. When I attach the cam to a pc USB port (Win XP os), Win Explorer shows 2 'removable disk drives' are created. The first cannot be accessed, the second contains the cam folders and any files (recorded pics or videos).
On the cam the screen shows 'USB connecting' and none of the control buttons are active.

When repeating all above on another pc, running Win 7 os, the same thing happens except there is only 1 'removable disk' visible in Explorer which contains the cam folders & files.
Mine does that, only one removable disc (win7)  never thought about using the buttons. I think that you can use the menus ect. on the TV if you connect via HDMI lead rather than USB.

Further info, the cam menu screen shows the software version to be FW20140510
v1.0
I think thats the latest firmware.

When I transfer the file to pc and use Registrator Viewer the file is good and that software is excellent.

Is anyone else having the problems described above?
Well yes  smile! if you look at Dashcam Talk website there's quite a bit about the glitches which have yet to be ironed out.

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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by Traficlady on Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:37 pm

boxerman wrote:
Traficlady wrote:There is a dash cam advertised in the Caravan Club mag which says it records 8 hours on a 32 gb card, which I thought was useful information.
That's going to be pretty low resolution, I think the Mobius does about 3.5 hours on a 32gb card @ 1080p highest res.
Have you got the make & model - price would be interesting too.
Found it at last! It wasn't the CC mag, it was July's MMM. It's a Snooper DVR-2HD. I got it all wrong anyway, it says 8.5 - 10 hours on a 16gb card, not 32gb, and resolution 1280 x 720. Very expensive though - anything up to about £170 depending on where you buy it.

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Post by boxerman on Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:52 pm

I've no doubt that it has good build quality but you're paying a lot for it and the video is only 720p so it isn't cutting edge technology.

I'm also a bit puzzled by their claim of 8 - 10 hours on a 16gb card, that works out at only around 4 megabits per second (= 9.1 hours according to the online caculator). Compare that to 18.4 for the Mobius @1080p (2hrs on a 16gb card) and 16.4 for 720p (2.2hrs on a 16gb card) so the Mobuis is using 4 times as much storage memory for the same resolution? (the Mini 0803 uses 15 mbps at 1080P 2.4hrs on a 16gb card).

So far I'm very happy with the 0803 and it seems to do all the things the Snooper does at less than half the money.

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Post by Backtrax on Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:19 pm

Frank
I reported to JooVuu my 2 issues with the Mobius 0803 (Audio mute not working & Connex to PC freezing camera buttons)
They sent reply as follows:
This sounds like a firmware problem - hopefully a simple re-install of firmware will solve the above problems. Go to here: http://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/mini-0803-firmware-20140510v1.5399/ 


Have you moved up from v1.0 to this?


Also I have found as a workaround that if you press up button for mute then again for unmute then again for mute, this results in the microphone being switched off.


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Re: Dash Cam In Car Recorder

Post by boxerman on Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:04 pm

Hi Ken
Backtrax wrote:Frank
I reported my 2 issues with the Mobius 0803 (Audio mute not working & Connex to PC freezing camera buttons)
As far as I am aware, the buttons are not supposed to work when connected by USB unless perhaps you have the USB mode in the menus set to "USB camera". If you want to view your footage  on the telly /computer, I think you need to use HDMI or AV leads.

They sent reply as follows:
This sounds like a firmware problem - hopefully a simple re-install of firmware will solve the above problems. Go to here: http://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/mini-0803-firmware-20140510v1.5399/ 

Have you moved up from v1.0 to this?
I haven't up or downgraded the firmware on mine, it is as received. (Haven't even checked to see what version it is)


Also I have found as a workaround that if you press up button for mute then again for unmute then again for mute, this results in the microphone being switched off.
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It's not something that I'm bothered about, I've just left the sound on. I may turn it off in the future though.

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Post by Spospe on Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:33 pm

Which? have just tested cameras (my copy came today) and the best buy is a NextBase In-Car Cam 402G Professional, costing around £140
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Post by gj1023 on Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:58 pm

. I started off with the usual cheapie one and have just bought one that got 5 stars and best buy in Auto Express..  http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/85715/transcend-drivepro-200


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