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Nuevo front side lights in roof

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Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by Peterm on Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:23 pm

The bulb in my 2006 Nuevo ES nearside roof side light is dim. I have removed the screws holding the unit, but the front plastic lens is held firmly in place, and the entire unit won't come out because it is held to the van by short wires.  It appears that the plastic inset holding the bulb is sealed to the plastic lens by either gunge or glue. I cannot find a leverage point for a screwdriver twist. Gentle tapping has not helped.

Any clues as how to get at the bulb without breaking anything?

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Sorry about it being on the wrong forum, but I don't know how to change it post posting.

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Re: Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by Peter Brown on Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:41 pm

Hi Peter

Its a long time since I've been into the sort of light I think you have. I think the lens just clips out by judicious gentle squeezing in the right place. I would screw the unit back on and try gently pushing round the lens to see if it will free up. If you could post a picture of it that might prompt someone with recent experience to confirm.

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Re: Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by Peterm on Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:35 pm

Thanks for the reply, Peter. The lamp is called a PL96 caravan light, and appears faily easy to buy. Don't know if it is integral, or if the lens comes off to change the bulb. Mine certainly is stuck fast. The next problem will be if I have to change the whole unit how to reconnect the half inch of wire I will have to cut to remove it.
Another Autosleeper cheapest and nastiest fittings problem. Why they cannot have an access hatch in the over cab headliner is beyond me. I will keep you posted on how I repaired it.

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Re: Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by Peter Brown on Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:45 pm



Hi Peter

I didn't think it would be, but the images I get when I search for a PL9 caravan light are circular lights. With those the lenses have 3 clips at 120 deg intervals, one being 180 deg from the switch - see picture. So if it is one of those, press the edge of the lens (gently) exactly opposite the switch and when you feel it unclick, pull it down.

If it is the oval one that I expected then the principle will be the same; you just have to work out where the catches are.

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Re: Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by jimthefish on Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:30 am

If its the PL96 exterior light have a look at this, it appears there are 2 clips on either side of the glass. I had the same problem with the short wire. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jokon-PL96-Universal-Front-Marker-Light-Caravan-Motorhome-Trailer-Free-Delivery-/350818747395

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Re: Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by Peter Brown on Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:43 am

Hi Peter

I read the words but interpreted them wrongly as an internal roof light. I now realise my mistake and apologise.

I've never had to get into one so listen to Jim.

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Re: Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by Peterm on Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:17 am



This is what mine looks like. Still got the same number so far as I can see on ebay, Jim. Also similar but different lens:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PL96-lens-front-side-light-caravan-motorhome/290950915521?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16548%26meid%3D336727792504246623%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D7839%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D350818747395%26#ht_306wt_958

As you can see there are no clips like the ones in your ebay ref. Just a fairly flat lens. I'll have to phone up mission control and see what they say.

Thanks to Peter and Jim,

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Same as mine

Post by jimthefish on Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:52 am

Hi Peterm, they are the same as mine. I thought the bulb had gone as the opposite rear light had also gone, only to find out that when they built the Nuevo on the Peugeot Chassis they swapped the harness from one side of the van to the other. So all I had to do is replace the nearside fuse to fix the nearside front and offside rear lights. Before I discovered this auto sleeper mistake I tried to take my front overhead light out, like most thing on a Nuevo they were stuck on with loads of mastic, when I finally got it out there was about 1/4 inch of spare wire so put it back. Don't know what happened to auto sleeper about 2004 but they seemed to skimp on little things. If I was you I would check the rear cluster lights, I had to seal mine as they kept fusing when it rained. (that's what fused the front light) I also replaced the rusty screws with stainless ones in the rear lights and the number plate lights. Its a shame because its a super van to drive and live in, it just lacks the finesse I expect from Auto sleepers. Mind you can't complain had 8 years of good times, looking at the forum I've been lucky all my problems I have managed to fix myself. I always make sure I can get the parts before I try to remove a exterior part as you usually end up breaking it. Have a look at my Nuevo rear light thread on this forum. Jim

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Re: Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by Peterm on Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:00 am

Hi Jim,

They couldn't even afford the mastic on mine!
The light is a JK 021 I think available from Caravan Components. It's not completely out, just dim. So It's not the fuse. I will order one after speaking to AS. The time everyone has spent on this it would have been as cheap to take the van back to Willesley(S?).

Thanks for that

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Cheers Peter

Post by jimthefish on Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:26 am

Think for £6.50 I will get one as a spare, mind you suspect the postage will double the cost.
http://www.caravan-components.co.uk/epages/BT2955.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT2955/Products/JK021
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Re: Nuevo front side lights in roof

Post by Peterm on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:22 am

Jim,

After getting the rounds of AS today, eventually got hold of someone really helpful in the spares dept,where I had started 10 mins before.  If you take the two screws out that hold the light in place there is a bayonet fitting in the centre, and if you twist and pull the bulb pops out. The guy was at a loss to explain how one gripped and turned a flush bayonet fitting with only a quarter of an inch of wire holding the light into a recess. 
So I have paid my £10 for a new one and will see what can be done. It was suggested that there was plenty of slack wire and I should try pulling it hard. I am still laughing at the thought of having to take out the entire roof liner to re run a cable snapped just inside the hole in the roof.

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Good luck.

Post by jimthefish on Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:45 am

Hi Peter hope you get the bulb out OK, keep me posted. Its handy to have a spare or know where to get one. I watched my overhead rear brake light slowly loose its bulbs one by one, even drilled holes in the bottom to drain the water out. If they all go out its an MOT failure unless you tell the tester you have disconnected it. So I purchased another one and wired it to hang in the back window inside the van and put white tape over the old one. Also the rear brake bottom cluster kept fusing as water can get into the electrics. They used standard wood screws to fix it to the body work so again re-sealed the unit and used stainless screws bought off Ebay to fix back to the bodywork. The only other problems I have had is they never tightened the side windows to the body so the first time we used it the rain came in and soaked the side and floor, finally the sliding table jammed open, took half an hour to get it back in, don't use it anymore as the fridge has to come out to tighten the loose screw I can see but not get at it. If you look at the Nuevo rear light thread you can see where I got the spares from. The only other problem but not Auto sleepers fault is they fitted a new style gas regulator inside the cylinder box which got clogged up over the winter, the first time we went away in 2007 no gas, replaced the new style regulator with a standard one and had no problems since. (easy to do) 
As I said they are super vans to drive and live in its just niggling things that let them down.
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