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Post by Admin on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:03 am

There has been a 'Small' minority of members who have left the forum recently. Some for personal reasons, but some because they don't agree with our objectives.

We have stated before that we will not tolerate members telling us what we should or shouldn't do, or how we should or shouldn't run this forum. As founder and Administrator of this website that started from nothing with no help or assistance from anyone at the very beginning. I have not only invested a lot of money to get this site where it is today, (as well as our associated websites) But, I have invested an immense amount of my personal time and effort behind the scenes running this site. (more than any of you could ever imagine).

A staff member has decided today to resign because of our objective to work closer with Auto-Sleepers and ASOC - We have never made a secret of this, and it has always been our intention to attempt to work alongside one another. We are all Auto-Sleeper owners and share the same interest, so why this division? I'm shocked at the level of maturity by some of these members who are senior to me in years, yet so immature in their reasoning.

Today I have become extremely close to taking the site down and calling it a day, this can be done with just a couple of clicks. We have dealt with many up and downs since the forum launched, but I always thought we had loyal members and more importantly staff members who felt almost as passionate as myself. Sorry to say, it seems I have been proved wrong in my naivety.

Disappointed and discouraged.

Regards

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Re: Announcement

Post by nuevoboy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:52 am

Hi Admin,
I am sorry to hear that  you seem to have been getting a bit of "grief" lately.
Please do not let this put you off, as I'm sure the vast majority of users are totally supportive of what you do.
It is more than likely that we do not fully appreciate what you do, as it is difficult to comprehend the amount of time (and probably money) that you have invested in this site.

Quite often, it seems that people seem blinkered in their opinions or set in their ways and appear obstructive if they don't get their way. From experience, it's not necessarily the young and inexperienced that have these traits and I'm sorry that what appear to you as "senior" members appear uncooperative.

As a relative newcomer to this forum, I have been absolutely delighted with it.
When I had some problems with my drain valve (actually the 'vans, not mine) the level of help I received was totally unexpected.
When I've been feeling a bit jaded and depressed I've used the forum to be cheered up by reading some of the jokes and poems.
And I've been inspired by reading about other users trips and experiences.

I really hope that I will be able to enjoy using this forum for several years to come and beg you to keep going. It would be a sad loss for all of us if it were to disappear.

Finally, I would like to thank you for my birthday wishes, on this my 60th birthday!
We've had eleven visitors staying with us over the weekend for a celebration.
Half have gone back, and the remainder, I've packed off to a local attraction for me to get some peace. hugegrins

All the very best,

nuevoboy.
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Post by chrisvesey on Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:18 pm

Hi,
I am sorry you are having problems from a minority of (ex) members, personally I find the forum in its present form interesting and helpful and if some people don't like it thats their problem, they can start their own if they like. I would like to thank you for all the work you put in and hope that you will not be discouraged by a few petty minded ########,
Regards,
Chris Vesey

PS, my birthday is tomorrow....66


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Post by Dutto on Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:40 pm

chrisvesey wrote:...............


PS, my birthday is tomorrow....66

Give yourself a few more years and like Sammy Davis Junior you will be wishing that you had looked after yourself better!!allthumbz allthumbz

With regard to the Admin problems I can only pass on something that it took me many years to work out:

People who cannot fault WHAT you do will ALWAYS tell you that the WAY you did something is wrong.


My advice is to tell them to * Inappropriate Word *-off!allthumbz allthumbz

Best regards as always,
drinksallround
Ian

PS  I will be doubly amazed indeed if I don't get the "Inappropriate Word" banner!hugegrins hugegrins

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Post by modelman on Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:43 pm

Hi Admin, I for one would be EXTREMELY saddened & disappointed if this great site were to fold, I ( & I suspect many others ) am addicted to logging on every day possible, I personally have no problems at all with the way you control it, its YOUR baby & you run it how YOU want it run, if I or any others don't agree, then we are all free to leave & go elsewhere.

 I am on several car & m/cycle forums & I can tell you that this one is by far the best run & controlled, one biker forum is full of effing & blinding (doesn't bother me by the way ) & one of the car sites, they row so much that punch-ups have been arranged!!  ( honest ) 

I have noticed that some of us think, talk & act differently, but that's normal in any group, & we all ( well almost all ) 'adjust' our behaviour to suit the majority & keep everything within the forums rules, but on the whole, I think we are a great bunch & bounce off each other very well indeed.

 Although I personally have only met a handful of  forum members, I like to feel 'one of the gang' & that we're all mates.

So please don't let the odd one or two spoil what to my mind is a rather rare & 'special' club, & I feel privileged to be a member.

Lawrie

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Post by roli on Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:58 pm

Thank you all for the support you have shown to Admin.  

I agree with what has been posted over the friendly way this forum is run and the support many of you have shown.  It is difficult on these forums to keep all happy and there will be always those who disagree, after all we are a democracy.  

Compared with other forums the amount of moderation needed has been minimal but at the end of the day there are things that just cannot be said and need removal to avoid legal action against the site owner.
If it upsets people that moderation has taken place thats unfortunate.   This forum is not a business venture nor is it a sideline of a publishing house - its a hobby which I think we all enjoy.   

If you get rattled or disagree please, dont cause grief, either ignore or go into hibernation for a day or two,,,,, or better still go out in the van where there is no 3g/wifi coverage and you cant get on the internet and relax

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Post by Peter Brown on Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:37 pm

I support all of the sentiments expressed above.

Please keep going.

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Post by rose49f on Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:44 pm

Agree. Where would we learn such a lot without you.
Forget the Grumpy OLD OLD men. This forum is the best.

A fan

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Post by Nuevo on Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:10 pm

Same as above allthumbz not sure whats happened to cause you to think about giving up but I would miss it terribly if you ever did.
chin up admin & staff its a great forum. allthumbz

Dave

[ ohh er cant find my usual signing off smiley so this one'll have to do instead smile!]

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Re: Announcement

Post by ian on Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:34 pm

Always look on bright side of life....da dum.da dum da dum da dum da dum


Admin thank you for all your consistent hard work and commitment in setting up and maintaining this site. You should be proud.

Members thank you for all your contributions ....and that's in spite of me being on the receiving end of uncalled for criticism.

We are what we are and most of us on this forum at our time in life are unlikely to change.

Admin has every right to run the site how they see fit but they must also remember to listen and value the contribution of the members.


Always look on bright side of life....da dum.da dum da dum da dum da dum


Smiley-Congrats



As for me I find a good bottle of red is usually the best solution to all things.

Cheers Ian
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Post by Groper on Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:52 pm

Must say I agree with the supportive replies(especially the bottle of red).If I do not agree with something said or an Admin edict I just think to myself that everyone to their own opinion and "C'est la vie".


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Post by algy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:38 pm

Well for me this invaluble tool called ASOF is unique,ok there are other M/H forums but NOT ONE to touch this one,so big up to the ASOF and big up to admin for founding it...
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Post by andygump on Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:25 pm

How dare you threaten to close down this great Forum.   My wife would find you and kill you.  It's her  only  respite time from me, when I am on the Forum talking to my "Cyber Friends".   

So please Admin to make both of us really really happy,  don't close down this great site smile!



Cheers

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Post by Doris on Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:42 pm

Please dont close down it is a vital source of information on Autosleepers. By the way I like the fact that swearing is not allowed, I would not have stayed if there was alot of swearing.
The person who resigned was probably looking for an excuse to go and rather than being honest and just saying my life has moved on and I want to do something else.

I am sure that most members are very grateful for what you do and approve of how you do it.

Dont let the b******* get you down
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Post by Waves117 on Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:14 pm

Great Forum Admin..... long may it continue good2

I've been on this forum since nearly the beginning and even though I haven't posted alot, I read the posts and find the Forum entertaining and gain great knowledge from it.  So thank you to all you members for your advice and especially Admin for setting this GREAT forum up thanksverymuch

Waves117 wave


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Post by Waves117 on Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:14 pm

duplicated post please delete.
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Post by BobK on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:23 pm

Don't give up Admin......can appreciate your sentiments, why do some B.......ds think it is their right to criticise something they could probably never be able to achieve themselves.    You're doing a great job and the posts echo it.

cheers   Bob
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Post by Flying High on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:41 pm

Sorry to hear that you have had grief, I love this site and it has been great to learn all the ins and outs of Motorhoming on here. 
I also try when I can to put some input into the site with things that I have found to help others.
Please continue with this fantastic site.

Best regards, Mike and Sue and of course Winnie.courtesy
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Post by terrybrinklow on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:24 am

Please may I join my voice with others and ask that you do not take down the best site I have found.It`s the only site where autosleeper owners can help each other with any problems we encounter,offering free unbiased help with any problems,suppliers and much much more. Many thanks for starting it up and long may it continue in its present and evolving forum.
                                                                             Kind Regards,
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Re: Announcement

Post by Dutto on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:31 am

Admin,

I have noticed that a few people who don't Post regularly have responded to this Thread in a very positive manner; so please take it as read that the support is there for you even from Forum Members that don't necessarily Post queries or comments.

Best regards,
drinksallround
Ian

PS

If you did close the Forum down I think my ASOF T-Shirts be worth a bit extra. hugegrins

They are both well used and a bit out of shape but I think I would put them on e-Bay with a reserve of £50 each!allthumbz allthumbz

See what I mean? Everything has a silver lining if you look hard enough!
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Post by ian on Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:42 am

I did n't know the T-shirts had a silver lining ! Is that like those silver screens to keep the warmth in and the damp out? lol4
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Post by orian on Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:17 pm

As someone who joined near the start of the forum I have found it of great value and I have told Admin before that I appreciate the hard work undertaken by him & the team.

I have recruited many members over the years and spoken highly of the forum.

I have not been on the forum very often in the past 9 months but Admin knows that is due to family matters which I do not wish to discuss here.

I would plead for some respect for those who have contributed a great deal to this site but feel they cannot remain part of it. Some of them that I know are not miserable b**** and their views should be respected in the same way as those who choose to remain.

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Post by Oddsnends on Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:49 pm

Just like to add my support and thanks for the effort that you the other members of staff and moderators put in.

I hope you can see past your despondency and continue to run the site as you see fit.


allthumbz

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Post by vwt4 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:06 pm

Hi please do not give up on the site, it has helped me and I am sure, many others in the past and will do so in the future, it is the only site that has good people ready to help others when they have problems with there van, or just want to chat with other like minded people, long may it continue.

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Post by Ann B on Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:08 pm

Would be very sad to see this forum go as it is the only one on which I post regularly (well, regularly for me) knowing that if I ask for advice it is there straight away.  Some forums I look at are very cliqueish or downright rude, but not this one.  Felt at home as soon as I joined.

Not sure what has been going on as I haven't seen any arguments, but hope we can continue happily thanks to the staff, moderators and, not least, to the owner.

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