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Post by G0RD0N on Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:41 pm

Just bought an 2006 Nuevo Autosleeper 2006  with one 7kg calor gas bottle in the locker . Tried to fit another one and it's too big. Got all the sizes  and worked out that it was designed for 2 x 4.5 kg bottles which calor are slowly fading out Anybody had the same problem and how did you solve it? It will be much appreciated for any help or advise given. Regards, Gordon
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:48 pm

Have you tried 1x7kg +1x4.5kg. I remember previous threads about this. 4.5kg sits on shelf?

Don't have the problem as I can fit 2x13kg in mine.

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Post by Gromit on Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:53 pm

From memory, Peter is correct.

One big one, and a small one which acted as a reserve until the emptied big one could be exchanged. Can't recall the sizes, but two bottles definitely went in.

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Post by davemarshall on Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:16 pm

Our 2006 Nuevo came with 2x6kg propane and they seem to fit perfectly, maybe the gas locker is made to this size.

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Post by Knick-Knack on Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:31 pm

Propane and butane cylinders from Calor are available in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:49 pm

Knick-Knack wrote:Propane and butane cylinders from Calor are available in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

Butane is heavier than Propane.

4.5kg B is same bottle size as 3.9kg P
7.0kg B is same bottle size as 6.0kg P
15.0kg B is same bottle size as 13.0kg P (actually P is 3mm smaller dia)

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Post by Paulmold on Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:54 pm

My 2006 Nuevo had 2 6kg standard and later 2 Calorlites, no problems fitting them in.

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Post by bikeralw on Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:55 pm

Same here 2 x 6kg Calor just fits, and I mean just! But mine is the EK, maybe different on the OP's ES.
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Post by Paulmold on Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:18 pm

bikeralw wrote:Same here 2 x 6kg Calor just fits, and I mean just! But mine is the EK, maybe different on the OP's ES.
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Mine was an ES.

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Post by G0RD0N on Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:44 pm

Thank you all for your help and advise. They must fit different size gas lockers. If I put a 6kg or a 7kg bottle in either side, then when I measure the gap between the door frame and the bottle I'm left with 240mm.  A 6kg and 7kg bottle both measure 256 mm in diameter and a 4.5kg 3.9kg bottle measures 240mm in diameter. Therefor I need 2 small bottles or try and force a medium and small bottle into the compartment or try to alter the box by 16mm to get 2 x 6kg 7kg bottles in. I'd planned to remove the strap/half moons and reposission them in each corner to try and make up 16mm.
just to correct Plouglin as an ex engineer that worked with liquid/vapour gasses for 30 years  butane and propane weigh the same butane expands into vapour at around 230 times it's liquid form and propane expands around 280 times it's liquid form hence that is why you only get 6kg in propane and 7kg in butane it' all about volume not weight. It's very dangerous stuff.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:56 am

Talking about liquid weight.

Liquid Density of Butane @70F = 36.05 lb/ft3
Liquid Density of Propane @70F = 31.12 lb/ft3 = 0.863 x density of Butane

4.5 kgx0.863 =3.9 kg

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