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Post by Paddington on Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:20 pm

I'm collecting my new campervan on Tuesday and the dealer has offered me a starter pack for £250. I have no idea what it contains. Should I just buy what I think I will need and hence get the correct length of cables etc?
I'm thinking
Fiamma leveller ramps x 4
Thetford aqua kem and rinse
 Milenco internal cab thermal blinds
Bunner 15m roll flat food grade hose with carrier 
guides de aires for n+s France + Italy
Pocket french, german, Spanish and Italian dictionaries
Huawei mobile Wi-Fi hotspot
Pro breeze 2000w mini fan heater
Rac torch
Pro breeze 500ml portable mini air dehumidifier 
Masterplug extension lead with usb
Any thoughts?
can anyone recommend  hook up cable on a real with at least 20m?
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Post by Molly3 on Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:45 pm

External silver screens,  keeps van warmer  and stop's condensation   I found internal screens makes condensation worse .
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Post by Roopert on Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:04 pm

It may be worth asking the dealer what's in the starter pack - last time I bought a van at a dealer, the starter pack turned out to be very good value (because the dealer/manufacturer buys in big quantities and - in that instance - decided to pass some of the saving on).

There are quite a few places that sell mains hookup cable, but be aware that you should be buying 2.5mm2 spec and not the thinner, cheaper 1.5mm2 type. If you go away in cold conditions, "arctic" spec cable can be worth the extra, so it's not so much like trying to coil a metal spring, and it may also be worth having both a 10m and a 25m hookup cable.
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Post by Dave 418 on Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:36 pm

The first motorhome we bought the dealer gave us a mains lead and a gas bottle and a bunch of flowers for management.
The second motorhome we bought came with a teddy bear. They said you must have gear from you're old motorhome.shrugg .
You're list seems quite comprehensive, I don't think you will need four levelling ramps. We have only ever had two. They take up a lot of room in the lockers.We have a ten and fifteen meter leads, you can join them together. They are coiled up and fastened with cable wrap round them so they lay flat in the locker. 
You don't mention bedding. We use a mattress topper, a sleeping bag opened out flat and the appropriate weight  duvet for the season.
The previous owners may have left you some bits when they traded in there motorhome. A friend of ours got a full set of pans , crockery and a full set of cutlery. 
You're first trip should be local armed with a note pad to list you're needs and items you can do without. Our first motor was full to the gunnels for the first couple of trips now we have a bigger motorhome and locker space to spare.
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Post by Roopert on Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:04 pm

Dave 418 wrote:We have a ten and fifteen meter leads, you can join them together.

You can (and I sometimes do) but you have to be careful, because one (both?) of the main UK clubs won't allow a joined set of cables to be used at any of their sites.
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Post by Bad Penny on Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:31 am

When in France and Spain a 25 metre and a 10 metre cable is very useful, sometimes the both are needed joined together if too far away from EHU point. I use the 10 metre one when close. A  three pin polarity check plug and a made up small length of reverved polarity cable and connector is a must when abroad. Levelling blocks a must, and exterior silver sceens for cab windows.
Anything else is an individual decision, but I would not be too quick to buy because something may be useful. They usually end up in a shed, travel light is our motto.we don't travel with anything we don' use.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:46 am

This is Marquis Starter Pack £250 Without Gas bottle. Haven't costed separately but seems expensive.

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Post by Weegie on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:20 pm

For your first (few) trips you'll need:

A gas bottle
EHU cable
Kitchen utensils / pots / pans
Cutlery and Crockery
Kettle
Bedding
Method of taking on water

You might consider:
levelling ramps x 2
Windscreen covers (if you need them for privacy) As mentioned above, go for external, not internal screens)
Seats for outside

Don't buy anything else until you've used the van a few times and you get an idea of what you might use. See what other people are using on site and ask them about it (motorhomers like nothing more than discussing "kit" with each other!)

Again as mentioned earlier, keep a notepad so you can make a note of "must haves", "should haves" and "could haves". There's nothing worse than splashing out on things that just take up storage space and never get used. Better to wait and buy when you know you'll use it.

In passing, and without wishing to open up yet another discussion on the subject, I, personally, would ignore Bad Penny's suggestion of a polarity check plug, whether home made or not. Your van will cope perfectly well with reversed polarity - just don't go poking about in any internal electrics without completely isolating the item in question. We have a built in polarity checker and a 3-pin plug checker and never use either, in the UK or abroad, and have never had an issue.

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Post by Paulmold on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:20 pm

I thought a fire extinguisher had to be supplied, therefore should be free. Also most dealers supply a new mains lead (even on a used van) so again that should be free. The water fill hose should also be in the van if you have that style of filler that needs it. To me that Marquis pack is a rip-off.

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Post by Weegie on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:28 pm

Oh, and something for the loo cassette (that could start a whole other discussion too!)

We use green sachets - if you're on a site with a septic tank for black disposal they wont let you dump anything but septic tank friendly chemicals, anything else, particularly the blue stuff with formaldehyde,  kills the bacteria in the tank.
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Post by Paulmold on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:32 pm

Further to my comment above, I've just checked on the AS website and new vans are definitely supplied with hook up lead and fire extinguisher.

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Post by Weegie on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:42 pm

Is the OP buying a new van Paul? I'd, perhaps mistakenly, taken the 2014 Neuvo mentioned in their bio to be the van they're collecting.

Having said that, like you, I'd still expect a Fire Extinguisher and EHU cable to be included.

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Post by Paulmold on Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:09 pm

Weegie wrote:Is the OP buying a new van Paul? I'd, perhaps mistakenly, taken the 2014 Neuvo mentioned in their bio to be the van they're collecting.

Having said that, like you, I'd still expect a Fire Extinguisher and EHU cable to be included.

Tommy.
Looking at OPs earlier posts, you are right. But I'd still expect a new cable and fire extinguisher. The reason I've got 2 spare cables in the garage is because all my vans (3 used ones) have come with a new cable and all have had a new extinguisher as well (I've always left those when exchanged).

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:27 pm

When I bought from Marquis in 2014, my used MB came with 2x6kg propane & spanner, new 25m cable, Truma fill hose, 2 new ramps and soft ground spreaders. All at no cost.

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Post by Paddington on Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:35 pm

My new van is the 2014 nuveo. I remember seeing a fire extinguisher in it. The dealer said he would fill the lpg tank. I had planned on interior cab thermal blinds as a few people mentioned dealing with the wet bird pooh external ones was a nuisance. re bedding i was just planning on a sheet and a duvet. Would this ruin the seat cushions?
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Post by Paddington on Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:38 pm

Oh....2 or 4 levelling blocks?
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Post by Greyhound on Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:48 pm

Weegie wrote:Don't buy anything else until you've used the van a few times and you get an idea of what you might use. 


I would agree with this.  Go on a couple of weekend trips first just to try out the van and get used to it and where everything is.  Then while away just make a note of the must haves, nice to haves and occasional use items.

You find what you need for different trips.  For weekends away for instance you can ditch a lot of stuff, but go for a week or more and you want to start adding more items.

Most of the stuff we pack doesn't get used - I bought 4 levelling ramps and as above only ever use 2, so 2 are on my garage wall out of the way.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:49 pm

2 ramps, and a spirit level.  (Or some water in the sink and see how it sits and drains, works for me)

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Post by Weegie on Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:20 pm

2 ramps only - if you can't level the van by raising just two of the wheels, move to a different pitch.

And as Peter says, you'll need a two way spirit level to check it!
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Post by Askit on Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:15 pm

Paddington wrote:My new van is the 2014 nuveo. I remember seeing a fire extinguisher in it. The dealer said he would fill the lpg tank. I had planned on interior cab thermal blinds as a few people mentioned dealing with the wet bird pooh external ones was a nuisance. re bedding i was just planning on a sheet and a duvet. Would this ruin the seat cushions?

It's more to do with comfort, the seats are fine for sitting on but a bit bumpy for sleeping.  We  just use one of Aldi's mattress toppers with a sheet and duvet, others swear by Duvalets.....the choice is yours. I also agree with others, wait until you use the van before forking out on extras.

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Post by Paddington on Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:13 pm

Thanks everyone for the advice  up!
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Post by Tigerbadge on Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:55 pm

All I got with my used van was a new fire extinguisher & carbon monoxide alarm.
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Post by Molly3 on Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:35 pm

We got a goody box with wine coffee and chocolate .
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Post by grahamandjenny on Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:20 am

We got our 09 Nuevo from Derby Motorhomes and it came with nothing, no cable, no gas bottles (they said these had to be hired so they could not supply them) and no freebies but it did still have 4 wine glasses. That said I have no complaints, the hand over was good and they did replace the mirrors foc as they would not lock in place.
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Post by Paddington on Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:53 pm

Molly3 wrote:We got a goody box with wine coffee and chocolate .
Chocolates, that's what I forgot. Essential to any list !
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