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Post by Gromit on Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:24 pm

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Post by bikeralw on Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:41 pm

I suggest we go outside and enjoy this beautiful hot sunny morning..
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Post by Askit on Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:00 pm

I agree with you Al but won’t the terms of Brexit affect those on here who use their vans to go abroad (pet passports has already come up), surely in that sense if nothing else it’s a legitimate motorhome topic (even if it’s not continued in this thread)?

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Post by Paulmold on Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:06 pm

We can't split a thread, so if someone wants to start a Brexit thread in General Discussion then go ahead (try to keep it relevant to motorhoming)  but if it develops into a slanging match, expect it to be stopped.


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Post by Lorfal on Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:22 pm

Did as instructed....got in van, went away"............to England! Lol
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Post by boxerman on Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:45 pm

bikeralw wrote:I suggest we go outside and enjoy this beautiful hot sunny morning..
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It might be a hot sunny morning in Middle Earth, but it ain't here wave

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Post by Bulletguy on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:00 am

Askit wrote:I agree with you Al but won’t the terms of Brexit affect those on here who use their vans to go abroad (pet passports has already come up), surely in that sense if nothing else it’s a legitimate motorhome topic (even if it’s not continued in this thread)?
Very much....but they all knew what they were voting for didn't they? That's what i keep getting told. 

International Driving Permits are being advised in case of 'no deal' (that's on a uk.gov website), green card may be needed in addition (advised to check with insurer if going in more than one country), medical insurance is an absolute must, the 90 day rule will become mandatory and third country visa-free status gives no automatic right of entry...meaning if stopped at any border and they decide they don't want you, tough, you've got to turn back.

This is just for starters.
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Post by Bulletguy on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:07 am

Paulmold wrote:We can't split a thread, so if someone wants to start a Brexit thread in General Discussion then go ahead (try to keep it relevant to motorhoming)  but if it develops into a slanging match, expect it to be stopped.
Yeah i agree Paul and though i have an answer for Ploughlins point, i've not posted it in preference to attempting to get back on a mh related track. Didn't intend to take it off topic though unfortunately the "B" business is going to affect all of us who travel outside UK in mh's etc....and that naturally includes cross channel services.
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Post by bikeralw on Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:51 am

What's the 90 day rule? I've spent extended time in several non EU countries, including NZ where I am at the moment, and the time limit in them all is 6 months.
Won't the EU become just the same as visiting the rest of the world?
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Post by Rolyan on Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:59 am

bikeralw wrote:What's the 90 day rule? I've spent extended time in several non EU countries, including NZ where I am at the moment, and the time limit in them all is 6 months.
Won't the EU become just the same as visiting the rest of the world?
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Yes; and having travelled extensively across many continents, in most major countries, including China, North America, Central America, South America, New Zealand, Australia, etc etc etc., I’m just not seeing the travel issues that some fear.  Having driven in almost all of them, travelling in and through them is really not a problem.

If someone has only ever travelled in the EU I can understand how they may worry if listening to the doom and gloom, but it really won’t affect your average traveller.
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Post by Rolyan on Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:09 am

Bulletguy wrote:
Askit wrote:I agree with you Al but won’t the terms of Brexit affect those on here who use their vans to go abroad (pet passports has already come up), surely in that sense if nothing else it’s a legitimate motorhome topic (even if it’s not continued in this thread)?
Very much....but they all knew what they were voting for didn't they? That's what i keep getting told. 

International Driving Permits are being advised in case of 'no deal' (that's on a uk.gov website), green card may be needed in addition (advised to check with insurer if going in more than one country), medical insurance is an absolute must, the 90 day rule will become mandatory and third country visa-free status gives no automatic right of entry...meaning if stopped at any border and they decide they don't want you, tough, you've got to turn back.

This is just for starters.
As mentioned, none of the above is a big issue. People have been doing them successfully for decades.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:31 am

bikeralw wrote:What's the 90 day rule? I've spent extended time in several non EU countries, including NZ where I am at the moment, and the time limit in them all is 6 months.
Won't the EU become just the same as visiting the rest of the world?
Al.

In Schengen Area, citizens of visa free Third Countries are only allowed a maximum total stay length of 90 days in any rolling 180 day period. Also will need an Authorisation to travel which is done online for 7 euros and lasts 3 years. Will apply to all countries' citizens outside EU countries. An extended stay visa is available, cost circa 70 euro, application at embassy of first country you intend to enter Schengen area.

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Post by bikeralw on Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:52 am

Does this apply now? My daughter's friends here in NZ have recently returned from a 6 month stay in Germany and they say they've paid nothing extra for visas.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:49 am

Should apply. NZ citizen don't need Schengen visa for entry, the authorization to travel not operational yet (Jan 2021). The centralised recording of entry/exit may not be up and running, butthey should not legally have stayed 6 months.

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/etias/

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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:07 pm

My point was, there is a General Chat part of this forum where such things can be discussed, and should be if that's what people want.
None of the above, including the original post has anything to do with PVC, Van Conversions. confused0 confused0
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:13 pm

Looking at a thread is not compulsory.

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Post by rogerblack on Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:34 pm

Agreed that looking at a thread is not compulsory but if it has a misleading title due to thread drift and is in the wrong part of the forum for the drifted conversation, then how does that help anyone wishing to avoid the parts of the discussion which have gone massively off topic, without reading the posts in case any in between are still relevant to the original topic & title?

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Post by Gromit on Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:48 pm

You have a point Roger.  up!

I've moved the thread to "Forum Talk" but I can't do much more as we're unable to split the posts within a thread.
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Post by mikethebike on Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:50 pm

I agree Roger. I would expect a mod to close this thread.


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Post by Gromit on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:09 pm

But others would strongly object if we did Micky.

You can please some of the people for some of the time . . . . . . .  content
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Post by rogerblack on Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:13 pm

Gromit wrote:You have a point Roger.  up!

I've moved the thread to "Forum Talk" but I can't do much more as we're unable to split the posts within a thread.
Thanks, Dave

Hopefully, if anyone wants to comment on Br*xit they will now do so on the existing thread on that subject or else start a new one with an appropriate title, so it can be avoided by those of us, of whichever persuasion, who wish to escape it for a wee respite!

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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:09 pm

PLOUGHLIN wrote:Looking at a thread is not compulsory.
Of course its not, but, thankfully Dave has moved this one to where it should be!
Thanks Dave, now I can concentrate on the Van Conversion area!

Thanks Ian up!
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Post by groundhog on Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:02 pm

I have an International licence and a Canadian licence and ironically since DVLA are being useless at renewing it no current UK licence.
I too have driven in many different countries on just about every continent and NEVER had a problem. Anyone kidding you the EU will be any different after Brexit is just scaremongering. Book your holiday with confidence for 2019.

So as I see it tonight after the government lost today's vote the House takes more control.
Theresa's "deal" is going to get rejected
Theresa then has three days to get a deal together that is acceptable to the House and the EU (snowballs chance in hell)  there is no consensus for any sort of deal in the House anyway, so Jeremy tables a no confidence vote and calls for a General Election, which may or may not happen.

The only consensus in the House is no one wants to crash out in March without some sort of agreement, therefore, most likely outcome Brexit will get delayed to find a Norway, Canada plus plus, hybrid way forward after which we enter another period of shambolic negotiation.

So motorhomers panic not unless someone blinks big time the UK will still be in Europe for a while yet.... which is exactly what your PM wanted in the first place.

Just my humble opinion...... scratch head
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Post by Bad Penny on Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:15 pm

As a precaution, the only thing I will get in preperation for my trip abroad, is an international driving permit. At the moment obtainable from AA and  RAC also over the counter at certain post offices.Cost of permit £5.50 and valid for one year.

For anyone who doubts my wisdom, I will have only wasted a few pounds if not required.up!

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