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Post by Suppersready on Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:27 pm

Hi all, 

On the 2017 Corinium this is attatched to the habitation door, I am unsure if this is the usual AS location for all models. I find this location less than ideal, and regularly catch it on the way in or out unless the hab door is fully open ( not possible If the adjacent lounge window is open ). Neither myself or wife are as nimble as we used to be ( especially after a glass of red or two ! )  and I can see this issue will result in a fall or broken bin, Is this just us ? If not I would be interested in others solutions or ideas.

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Post by naki585 on Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:43 pm

Hi.
It is the same on our Burford. We don't use it. It is useless. Have taken it off.
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Post by Paramedic on Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:02 am

You may want to consider the Kampa (ACO 268) Waste basket priced at about £10.

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Post by Suppersready on Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:31 am

I had considered removal .... I’ll check out your suggestion Paramedic, thank you.
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Post by Dave 418 on Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:17 pm

Not the same motorhome but we managed to fit a small bin in the corner of the bathroom in our Rienza, there was no bin fitted orgionaly. The small size means it has to be emptied every couple of days and it can be shut away from the rest of the motorhome. I think it came from a high street shop for bathrooms.
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Post by groundhog on Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:53 pm

Again not a corinium but just took ours off and haven't missed it at all. The term waste bin is probably accurate.
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Post by AndyLouch on Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:36 pm

We use ours to stow the dustpan and brush! Pretty much useless for anything else!!
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Post by Quilter on Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:33 am

If it is the same as the Broadway bin then I could not manage without it. I use a plastic bag in there and dump daily. We have a cut down 2 litre milk bottle in the bathroom which does nicely for odd cotton buds and floss. Never knocked into it and my only complaint is that it is a faff to remove for deep cleaning.
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Post by pjonesf1 on Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:52 am

My wife and I are 5ft and we walk into it on our Broadway
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Post by Maasai Warrior on Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:12 pm

Like Quilter, we have always used our hab door bin on our Broadway, we empty it regularly and have never had a problem walking into it, even with an accident prone better half! For deep cleaning it does need to be removed carefully so as not to break the flimsy plastic loop.
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Post by Molly3 on Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:35 pm

Another vote for useless    one set of fish and chips wrapping  and its full , bin  door flies open  when  the door is slammed .
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Post by Peter Brown on Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:02 pm

I think this is a very personal thing. Our door mounted brabantia bin is centrally located and easily accessible from our 'kitchen' and under the awning during those long summer days with the door fully open. Perfect location for us.

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Post by Paramedic on Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:48 pm

Same for us Peter, same bin make/location and I think our Peugeot is the same layout as your Mercedes albeit our hab door only opens 90% to the sidewall so perhaps the bin is a bit more vulnerable to collision damage.

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Post by groundhog on Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:01 pm

No argument with where the bin is located,in fact as Peter says it is perfect, my problem is its size and the fact it is so flimsy on our van, bigger and stronger would have been better.... I am sure all vans are different though!
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Post by Suppersready on Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:54 am

It does appear to be a very personal thing as suggested..... while away last week in Gwynedd I have managed to break the flimsy bag retainer !!. Maybe I’m just clumbsy.
On a separate note I witnessed a lot of new signage stating “ No overnight sleeping in any vehicle “ in several places which traditionally have been used for a long time by Vaners etc. Gwynedd CC being there usual motorhome friendly bunch ... not.
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Post by rogersrimini on Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:26 am

Suppersready wrote:It does appear to be a very personal thing as suggested..... while away last week in Gwynedd I have managed to break the flimsy bag retainer !!. Maybe I’m just clumbsy.
On a separate note I witnessed a lot of new signage stating “ No overnight sleeping in any vehicle “ in several places which traditionally have been used for a long time by Vaners etc. Gwynedd CC being there usual motorhome friendly bunch ... not.
We had te same problem on our 2016 Nuevo. The bag fixing was so flimsy the invitable breakage occurred. We complained to the supplying dealer who replaced it at no cost to us, but i wouldn't expect all dealers to be so accommodating, especially Marquis censored! , who would probably want the van for assessment and fitment and would still blame you for everything, how do they remain in business?!
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Post by Jimmee on Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:21 pm

We have a Bourton.  I think the bin is fine and use it all the time.  I am glad it is there otherwise it leaves a gap to fall down when the door is closed.
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Post by AndyRoyd on Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:29 pm

I use the bin on the Broadway but I empty it every morning, not had a problem walking into it but I do open the door fully when leaving.

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Post by Pete Taylor on Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:31 pm

Took ours off and now hang a black bin bag on the adjacent awning winder- not an elegant solution!

If I had to name one thing that I really hate about our Stanton, it would be that awful Hartal door.

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Post by Askit on Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:42 am

We use ours and no mishaps thus far. It does require regular emptying so I just do it routinely when we're heading out for a walk. I also use lidl bin liners(25l version) which are installed and the top of the bag is folded over the clip before the clip is pushed back in. This makes cleaning much easier.

Having said all that, I see the bin design on newer vans has been changed.

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Post by Cymro on Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:18 am

I also load a suitable bin-liner as described by Askit (above) and wind its top edge around the bin's top front frame before clipping the frame back in position. But in addition, to stop the bag from falling through from the door-side edge, I bought two tiny Terry clips; tied a small piece of string to the right corner of the frame nearest the door; and then tied the 2 clips at equal spaces on to the string. The clips are then pushed over the rolled top of the bin liner, over the door-side frame. Works well!

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Mind you, I also hate that Hartal door! The hopeless restrainer at the top; the weak springs in the closers; and that b handle on which I bang my head when bending down to the door-side cupboard or to the dustbin!

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Post by Quilter on Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:33 pm

Thank you. I like that and will be off to the nearest China shop for the wherewithal to copy. Very neat and, since we tend to use supermarket veg bags etc, a good way to stop them collapsing.

We too really dislike the Hartal door: the door catch has broken so we have to reset it everytime we open it and make sure it is never slammed. The top restraining strut is on its n th replacement but we still have to tie the door open or risk the slightest wind slamming it. A masterpiece of poor design.
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Post by rventhusiast on Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:16 pm

We do tend to use a waste bin and have to agree the Hartal slimline offering is neither use nor ornament - although I do like the suggestion above to use it for dust pan and brush. However, whilst fighting to retrieve a rather overfilled bag (half empty once removed) I managed to snap the thin retaining strip. As we were at Bridlington and I planned to visit O'Leary's at Woodmansey for some wood veneer to make some interior modifications, I took the opportunity to mooch round and found a stack of the larger square flip top bins normally fitted on the  inside a kitchen unit door. I tried it against the door/footwell and it looked a good fit so bought one, went back to the site, removed broken one and fitted the new one in its place. Nice fit in the footwell on the Mercedes when the door closed and the door opens wide enough to allow safe passage on entry/exit.

This will work fine for us.

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Post by groundhog on Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:40 pm

Like the sound of that David, was it just a random item or do you think they would recognise what I was talking about if I tried to get one for our Worcester?
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Post by Jimmee on Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:51 pm

I just use two small clothes pegs, works just as well.  Angela (of Jimmee)
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