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Post by pstallwood on Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:10 pm

We had baffles fitted after the first flooding but they still didn't work totally.

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Post by CC on Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:19 pm

pstallwood wrote:We had baffles fitted after the first flooding but they still didn't work totally.

I’m surprised to hear that... it totally resolved our problem.

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Post by pstallwood on Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:27 pm

Yes. Had baffles fitted and on drive home found water in door step well again. Not a happy bunny.

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Post by CC on Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:40 pm

Sounds like they haven’t fitted them properly Peter, presume they are still attached? hugegrins

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:42 pm

pstallwood wrote:Yes. Had baffles fitted and on drive home found water in door step well again. Not a happy bunny.
Gaffer tape?

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Post by Liam on Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:50 pm

pstallwood wrote:Yes. Had baffles fitted and on drive home found water in door step well again. Not a happy bunny.
Have you got rubber mud flaps?
There has got to be something wrong with the installation - otherwise all owners of you model would have a similar problem and I can't imaging these people are all suffering "flooding footwells' in silence

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Post by CC on Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:57 pm

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Have you got rubber mud flaps?
There has got to be something wrong with the installation - otherwise all owners of you model would have a similar problem and I can't imaging these people are all suffering "flooding footwells' in silence

The previous owner of our Broadway obviously suffered in silence...

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:00 pm

Looking at a couple of Bourtons on line, they both have normal MB rear mud flaps, clearly visible.

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Post by Norwich Lass on Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:55 pm

Well thank you so much for all this helpful info . Not sure re the way forward now ? Thought the mud flaps were the answer . E - mailed auto- sleeper but no response yet ......
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Post by pstallwood on Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:49 pm

We got the rubber mudflaps fitted and no problems since then so we are happy at the moment.

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Post by LDPD on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:09 pm

Mudflaps are to be fitted under warranty. This is my step - the dried dirt is from muddy puddles. Don't understand what baffles might be but mudflaps should protect the vents AND the step. Keeping the step and related mechanism free from muck must be a good thing. 
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Post by Peter Brown on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:50 pm

In the scheme of things, that step is pristine.

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Post by Norwich Lass on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:59 pm

Thank you! Contacted Auto - Sleeper today and they have agreed to have them fitted under warranty . 
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Post by Jaytee on Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:49 pm

Interesting thread. I blanked our vent off as fed up with mud and water getting in and we have the mud flap. Will find out from Mark what the baffles are. Thanks allthumbz

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Post by CC on Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:15 pm

Think they are just rubber flaps they fit over the outside of the step vent holes, in effect mud flaps but they refer to them as baffles, they don’t obstruct or seal the vent holes just deflect any water getting through the vents, again I ask why are these not fitted as standard scratch head or is that unreasonable of me...

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Post by LDPD on Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:27 pm

CC wrote:Think they are just rubber flaps they fit over the outside of the step vent holes, in effect mud flaps but they refer to them as baffles, they don’t obstruct or seal the vent holes just deflect any water getting through the vents, again I ask why are these not fitted as standard scratch head or is that unreasonable of me...
Interesting? Sounds like they fit in a different place to mudflaps. So, options are baffles and/or mudflaps? Hmm I'm confused. I'm hoping the mudflaps will solve the vent problem and offer a bit more protection for the step and its mechanism. And why not fitted as standard is indeed a good question - but if they were we'd have to find something else to discuss!

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Post by LDPD on Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:44 pm

Our dealer, Nick Whale, fitted rear mud flaps yesterday. Just need some real rain to go for a drive to check out. Looking good though.

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Post by Liam on Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:02 pm

LDPD wrote:
CC wrote:Think they are just rubber flaps they fit over the outside of the step vent holes, in effect mud flaps but they refer to them as baffles, they don’t obstruct or seal the vent holes just deflect any water getting through the vents, again I ask why are these not fitted as standard scratch head or is that unreasonable of me...
Interesting? Sounds like they fit in a different place to mudflaps. So, options are baffles and/or mudflaps? Hmm I'm confused. I'm hoping the mudflaps will solve the vent problem and offer a bit more protection for the step and its mechanism. And why not fitted as standard is indeed a good question - but if they were we'd have to find something else to discuss!
As far as I know the "baffles" (probably made of rubber) are within the motorhome vent units and the "mud flaps" are fitted to the bodywork behind the road wheels.

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Post by LDPD on Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:14 pm

Liam wrote:
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CC wrote:Think they are just rubber flaps they fit over the outside of the step vent holes, in effect mud flaps but they refer to them as baffles, they don’t obstruct or seal the vent holes just deflect any water getting through the vents, again I ask why are these not fitted as standard scratch head or is that unreasonable of me...
Interesting? Sounds like they fit in a different place to mudflaps. So, options are baffles and/or mudflaps? Hmm I'm confused. I'm hoping the mudflaps will solve the vent problem and offer a bit more protection for the step and its mechanism. And why not fitted as standard is indeed a good question - but if they were we'd have to find something else to discuss!
As far as I know the "baffles" (probably made of rubber) are within the motorhome vent units and the "mud flaps" are fitted to the bodywork behind the road wheels.
Hmm. Was at AS on Wednesday about a different matter but took the opportunity to ask about mud flaps and baffles and was told the answer was mud flaps. After having mudflaps fitted as a warranty item on Thursday at our dealer, Nick Whale, I'm waiting for some real rain before going for a drive to see if the mud flaps do the job of keeping the vent(well it's the front one that really matters) free from water ingress and also keep some of the muck off of the step. Will report in due course!

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Post by Liam on Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:42 pm

LDPD wrote:
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Interesting? Sounds like they fit in a different place to mudflaps. So, options are baffles and/or mudflaps? Hmm I'm confused. I'm hoping the mudflaps will solve the vent problem and offer a bit more protection for the step and its mechanism. And why not fitted as standard is indeed a good question - but if they were we'd have to find something else to discuss!
As far as I know the "baffles" (probably made of rubber) are within the motorhome vent units and the "mud flaps" are fitted to the bodywork behind the road wheels.
Hmm. Was at AS on Wednesday about a different matter but took the opportunity to ask about mud flaps and baffles and was told the answer was mud flaps. After having mudflaps fitted as a warranty item on Thursday at our dealer, Nick Whale, I'm waiting for some real rain before going for a drive to see if the mud flaps do the job of keeping the vent(well it's the front one that really matters) free from water ingress and also keep some of the muck off of the step. Will report in due course!
Its always going to be an issue with road debris/water/mud when the Habitation door is situated directly behind the rear wheels.

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Post by Dare-devil-dennis on Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:01 pm

Yes, but it's not like this is the first year they have been doing it like this? (or the first year we have had such a sh1tty winter)
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Post by Liam on Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:08 pm

Dare-devil-dennis wrote:Yes, but it's not like this is the first year they have been doing it like this? (or the first year we have had such a sh1tty winter)
I think you will find that it is the first year that they (MB) have stopped fitting mud flaps to the rear wheels. They have always been a standard fit up until then!

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Post by Dare-devil-dennis on Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:10 pm

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Dare-devil-dennis wrote:Yes, but it's not like this is the first year they have been doing it like this? (or the first year we have had such a sh1tty winter)
I think you will find that it is the first year that they (MB) have stopped fitting mud flaps to the rear wheels. They have always been a standard fit up until then!
Sorry, that's what I meant. After all this experience, why make such a retrograde step (pun unintended)
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Post by Liam on Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:25 pm

Dare-devil-dennis wrote:
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Dare-devil-dennis wrote:Yes, but it's not like this is the first year they have been doing it like this? (or the first year we have had such a sh1tty winter)
I think you will find that it is the first year that they (MB) have stopped fitting mud flaps to the rear wheels. They have always been a standard fit up until then!
Sorry, that's what I meant. After all this experience, why make such a retrograde step (pun unintended)
From what I have read on this thread it would appear that AS are offering (to those that ask) to retrofit (FOC) mud flaps. I suspect that MB made a unilateral build change to not fit mud flaps on the current batch of chassises which AS now have to fix.

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Post by kaspian on Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:49 pm

Liam wrote:
Dare-devil-dennis wrote:
Liam wrote:
I think you will find that it is the first year that they (MB) have stopped fitting mud flaps to the rear wheels. They have always been a standard fit up until then!
Sorry, that's what I meant. After all this experience, why make such a retrograde step (pun unintended)
From what I have read on this thread it would appear that AS are offering (to those that ask) to retrofit (FOC) mud flaps. I suspect that MB made a unilateral build change to not fit mud flaps on the current batch of chassises which AS now have to fix.
You would think with all of their supposed experience someone at A/s would have noticed as he cut a hole in the step moulding and saw tyre tread a few inches away smiling at him! Just poor attention to detail I'm afraid . Or poor design or both. The results are hardly a surprise to anyone with a bit of sense....wet floor!
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