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Post by Molly3 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:55 pm

On collecting my 2014 nuevo from the dealer I was advised not to fill the toilet water tank no more than half full ,the demonstrator said it may be because filling the tank can cause damp in the toilet area .any comments .
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Post by rose49f on Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:12 pm

Never heard they one
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Post by TeamRienza on Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:35 pm

I seem to recall hearing this before, on a thread on a forum (can’t remember which).

The general consensus was that it was not a problem with those who contributed.

There is a ‘tiny’ possibility that water could seep out of the top of the c200 series flush if the top has been removed for pump replacement and not resealed properly.

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Post by daisy mae on Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:41 pm

I have not heard of this either

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Post by Paulmold on Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:47 pm

I have heard it before but I always fill it and never had a problem.

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:12 pm

The handbook for the toilet says the same for travelling.

"Important Warning Notice! Please do not travel with a
flush water tank that is too full (we advise empty, but
for sure not filled more than half-full)
. Do not travel
with water in the toilet bowl. Failure to adhere to this
notice may result in water damage to your caravan or
motor home. Please avoid to travel with a wasteholding
tank that is more than 3/4 full. This may cause
leakage through the venting system.
"

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Post by Molly3 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:14 pm

Thanks that answer my question.
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Post by BarryP on Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:25 pm

It can and does happen. If the holding tank is full then normal driving can cause the (pink) water to slop around and escape into toilet compartment and the onto floor. Handbook IS a warning. In any case, why would you want to cart 5 litres of water around when you don't need to?
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Post by Peter Brown on Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:34 pm

BarryP wrote:In any case, why would you want to cart 5 litres of water around when you don't need to?

Some people actually do use their vans for 3 or 4 days without an opportunity to replenish water, it is not advisable to 'presume' what others will use their vans for.

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Post by AndyLouch on Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:25 pm

Yep, been there, done that! First trip I filled the water flush tank to the brim resulting in very damp carpets in the bathroom. I thought we had a leak and was glad to find out it was 'operator error'! Repeated the trick last summer when I was trying to get a feel for how full the tank should be!!
I now fill no more than 75%
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Post by BarryP on Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:02 am

Peter Brown wrote:
BarryP wrote:In any case, why would you want to cart 5 litres of water around when you don't need to?

Some people actually do use their vans for 3 or 4 days without an opportunity to replenish water, it is not advisable to 'presume' what others will use their vans for.

Peter, I detect a tone of censure in your posting. Might I suggest that it is just as "advisable" to read and understand what you are replying to before putting on the 'pompous hat'. What part of "when you don't need to" confuses you? Perhaps "not advisable" either to knock other members' opinions just because they may not agree with your own.
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Post by bikeralw on Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:18 am

Peter Brown wrote:
BarryP wrote:In any case, why would you want to cart 5 litres of water around when you don't need to?

Some people actually do use their vans for 3 or 4 days without an opportunity to replenish water, it is not advisable to 'presume' what others will use their vans for.
Well I'm one of those who often go 3 or 4 days without opportunity to replenish water, and not only do I fill the flush tank to the brim, 10 litres I think, but also brim the fresh water tank whenever the opportunity arises. I've never had a leak, and even if I did it would only be into the sealed shower area, which wouldn't be a problem as I never put any additive, pink or otherwise into the flush tank.
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Post by pstallwood on Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:37 am

How do you know how much water is in the tank with no sight tube? You need some at least when travelling from place to place as the van toilet is often the most convenient place to use. Do people actually empty out water from the flush tank before they move?

i always fill and travel full or with whatever is in the tank until I do the next fill. I always fill the flush tank whenever I fill the clean water tank as I have been caught out in the middle of the night with no flush.

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Post by Askit on Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:41 pm

We only stop over on sites so the flush gets emptied before travelling. It's still possible to use the toilet on route by using bottled water to flush (tap that is, not Evian biggrin)

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Post by Liam on Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:31 pm

The moral of this issue is to follow the user instructions (or possibly suffer the consequences of a damp bathroom floor) with planned provision to top up wherever possible.
Regarding how much is actually in the tank - I carry a length of reasonably stiff plastic covered cable with which I can “dip test* the tank. It has to be stiff enough to hit the bottom of the tank without bending but of course it must be sufficiently flexible to feed into the tank.
It is coloured black so you can see the liquid level easily and I have calibrated it at the half and full points with a piece of insulation tape.
It works for me.
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Post by AndyLouch on Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:14 pm

Liam, sounds a sensible solution although we do have a 'sight tube' on the Winchcombe so usually OK. We also tend to top up all of the tanks when we get the opportunity as I have a dread of running out of drinking (not usually a problem since we tend to use cheap bottled for drinking and keep a good stock on board!) and flushing. I'm just glad it's not only me who get into these sort of tangles!!
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Post by Liam on Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:26 pm

AndyLouch wrote:Liam, sounds a sensible solution although we do have a 'sight tube' on the Winchcombe so usually OK.
Hi Andy,
Thats posh - how did you get a sight type and we didn't!
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Post by Maasai Warrior on Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:37 pm

Liam, we have a site tube on our Broadway 2014, very useful, so why you haven’t is a mystery.

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Post by Liam on Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:05 pm

Pete,
Yes, it would have been extremely useful. I know that they produced our Malvern as a one off special for us as they had officially dropped it from the brochure at that time - so perhaps they were using up old parts? I will just have to stick with my improvised measuring device!
Just goes to prove that no two Auto-sleepers are the same but that goes for the human race also!!
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Post by Peter Brown on Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:10 am

BarryP wrote:
Peter Brown wrote:
BarryP wrote:In any case, why would you want to cart 5 litres of water around when you don't need to?

Some people actually do use their vans for 3 or 4 days without an opportunity to replenish water, it is not advisable to 'presume' what others will use their vans for.

Peter, I detect a tone of censure in your posting. Might I suggest that it is just as "advisable" to read and understand what you are replying to before putting on the 'pompous hat'. What part of "when you don't need to" confuses you? Perhaps "not advisable" either to knock other members' opinions just because they may not agree with your own.

I suggest you should have used the work 'I' referring to your practice rather than 'you' that refers to my practice. As the 'you' in your quote, I not happy that you (BarryP) are telling me that I don't need to have water in my toilet flush tank - that is for me to decide!

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Post by kaspian on Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:15 pm

Having had to replace the pump in a previous motohome I can confirm that the pump in the bench style toilet is fitted via the panel with the flush button. If full the tank could overflow via the switch panel when the water surges around while driving.
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Post by Molly3 on Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:04 pm

Thanks for replying looks like I was told correctly bazz
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