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Hill Start Assist

Post by hat004 on Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:03 pm

Does anyone know if it is possible to retro fit the Hill Start Assist system to a 2014/15 Warwick Duo?
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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:28 pm


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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by mpbarrett on Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:46 pm

my 2011 symbol states it has in the Van manual but I have never managed to get it to work...
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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by RML on Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:56 pm

mpbarrett wrote:my 2011 symbol states it has in the Van manual but I have never managed to get it to work...
:(

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I had the same but mine only works from the foot brake on hills of 6%(?) gradient or more - took a while to find this out.
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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by mpbarrett on Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:37 pm

tried it on lots of steep hills in Spain but it always ran backwards.. never got it to work!

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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by -mojo- on Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:07 pm

mpbarrett wrote:tried it on lots of steep hills in Spain but it always ran backwards.. never got it to work!

Were you using the footbrake ~only~? These systems typically are not designed to work at all with the handbrake - if you use that they get confused or just won't work.
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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by mpbarrett on Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:28 pm

yep. Even read the handbook and still cant get it to work.... :(

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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by Cymro on Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:11 am

mpbarrett wrote:yep. Even read the handbook and still cant get it to work.... :(

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 Me too.
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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by mpbarrett on Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:45 am

just looked at older post that mentions the ESP.
I wonder if this has to be on (defaults to off on my van) for this feature to work.
Not many hills in Cambridge to try it on...

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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by -mojo- on Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:57 am

mpbarrett wrote:just looked at older post that mentions the ESP.
I wonder if this has to be on (defaults to off on my van) for this feature to work.

The Stability Program on the van is by default turned off? That's a serious design flaw in my opinion! On a VW T5 or T6 it's simply not possible to turn off ESP, and the traction control (called ASR on VWs) is also on by default - ASR can be turned off manually, but it comes on again when you re-start the engine.

Really - what were they thinking when they designed it like that? You can imagine a driver starting to lose control on a corner, and having to control the start of a skid while at the same time trying to reach the "ESP On" button to turn the system on. A crazily bad design, IMO.
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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by Greyhound on Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:18 pm

ESP is on by default.

It should light up when you press it, which is a warning that you have now turned it off.
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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by Cymro on Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:19 pm

Just looked at my Handbook (2015 Peugeot-based). No mention of ESP. But says:
ABS - cannot be deactivated by driver
DSC (dynamic stability control - which I guess is ESP) - cannot be deactivated by driver.

Also available, but not fitted to mine, are ASR (anti-slip regulation); Intelligent Traction Control; Hill descent control; lane departure system ... and every other combination of 3 letters, including the scrumptious CDM!

In short, I cannot turn off DSC (=ESP) so that isn't the trigger for Hill Assist.
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Re: Hill Start Assist

Post by Greyhound on Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:22 pm

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/972616/Peugeot-Boxer.html?page=44

Think ASR is the only one that can be turned off, so it's possible to spin the wheels in muddy conditions to try and get grip back.
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