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Post by Wolveleigh on Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:01 am

I've recently bought an Autosleepers Trophy and after an initial problem with the fuel pump (fixed under warranty) I'm very happy with it. However there is no shower fitted in the washroom. everything else described in the owner's manual is there and in good order. There is a shower head and hose with plumbing attachments in the wardrobe but I cannot see anywhere where I can get the shower installed. Any ideas or suggestions about a good place to have it investigated?
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Re: Trophy shower

Post by Quilter on Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:05 pm

No answers from Trophy owners ?

Is the shower one of those that pulls out of the centre of the washbasin tap ? Perhaps the previous owner did not get on with this arrangement, had ordinary taps fitted and left the shower fittings in the wardrobe in case a subsequent owner wanted to reverse all this ?

(PS I should have said " welcome to the forum" by the way. Just noticed it's your first post.)
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Re: Trophy shower

Post by vwt4 on Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:44 pm

Hi 
on my Trophy to the right of the drop down sink unit there is a connection point for the shower with hot and cold taps the feed for these is teed off the hot/ cold supply behind the sink unit.
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Post by Wolveleigh on Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:36 pm

Thank you. As there is no fitting to the right of the drop down sink, you must be right; I'll get the shower fitted in place of the sink taps. This is slightly awkward because it seems to mean having to store the shower hose and head inside the drop down sink but this would be preferable to no shower! i think the previous owner(s) must have preferred using site showers.
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Post by Quilter on Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:12 pm

Wolveleigh wrote:Thank you. As there is no fitting to the right of the drop down sink, you must be right; I'll get the shower fitted in place of the sink taps. This is slightly awkward because it seems to mean having to store the shower hose and head inside the drop down sink but this would be preferable to no shower! i think the previous owner(s) must have preferred using site showers.


We have had 2 vans with this arrangement. The shower head becomes the spout of the tap. It worked quite well though I seem to remember they needed descaling more than a normal tap ( unscrew head and put in a jug of white vinegar for a while.)
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Re: Trophy shower

Post by Wolveleigh on Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:32 pm

Thank you. I'm glad I've joined this forum. The age of my van means that getting technical info can be tricky. 
Just by the way, I was busy cleaning the toilet cassette when I heard a rattling sound and thought who on earth has been putting rocks down the toilet? I discovered that the cassette was heavily coated in calcified 'something'-there were stalagmites in there! Some gentle taping with a rubber mallet brought forth about a pound of rock hard material, not unlike slate or shale. I suppose that the cassette is a sort of perfect mini cave- no pot-holers in there though.
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Post by Quilter on Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:07 pm

Wolveleigh wrote:! Some gentle taping with a rubber mallet brought forth about a pound of rock hard material, not unlike slate or shale. 


Take care with your mallet ! The mechanism that operates the trap can get dislodged. Try a good dollop of vinegar ( white) and warm water or commercial descaler as used in coffee pots, washing machines etc.

I wonder if the last user of the van left a lot of water in the cassette ? I wouldn't have expected urine to form scale.
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Post by chrisk on Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:18 pm

Could have been hard water causing it to fir up but that's usually when water is boiled, unless the previous owner liked red hot curry.
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Re: Trophy shower

Post by Wolveleigh on Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:52 am

Right. Great advice again. The mileage on the van is very low (supported by the service history and its immaculate condition) which makes me think that it was stored for long periods and left to its own devices. I'm inclined to agree that the cassette was left with water in it and perhaps not 'over-wintered' as suggested in the manual. Could it be that a previous owner was flushing the toilet with boiled water? Anyway its clean now and everything's in working order; thanks for the advice about white vinegar- tips like these can only come from seasoned campaigners.
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Re: Trophy shower

Post by -mojo- on Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:57 am

I suspect it's more likely that a previous owner put toilet fluid in and then just forgot about it - so the water content in the fluid eventually evaporated, leaving behind the deposits you found. It's hard to imagine how you could pass enough water through the system for ordinary hard water limescale to build up enough for it to drop off in lumps!

Incidentally, at least one of the toilet system makers sell a "freshen up kit" which (IIRC) comprises a new cassette, a new seat and some new seals, so although it doesn't sound like you need it now, for some people that may be a more pleasant way of disposing of a previous owner's unwanted deposits...
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Re: Trophy shower

Post by Gromit on Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:42 pm

Wolveleigh wrote:Could it be that a previous owner was flushing the toilet with boiled water?
If they had, it would have had the opposite effect and ensured that little or no calcium deposits formed, since the process of boiling would have removed almost all of it.

I can't imagine anyone going to that amount of trouble, but putting boiled (or distilled, which is similar but even more pure) water in the flush tank would practically eliminate any deposits from that source.

I'm not so sure about Mojo's suggestion as to the source of the deposits either. If they did originate from evaporated toilet fluid they would be strongly coloured in blue or green, and it would take gallons of the stuff to leave any appreciable amount of solid deposits. Likewise with water - to generate a pound of solid deposits it would need hundreds, perhaps thousands of gallons of water to evaporate.

A pound or so of deposits is a bit of a puzzle, unless the previous owners had some very peculiar dietary habits!!!  hugegrins  Whistle1

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Re: Trophy shower

Post by mikemelson on Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:48 pm

Wolveleigh wrote:Thank you. I'm glad I've joined this forum. The age of my van means that getting technical info can be tricky. 
Just by the way, I was busy cleaning the toilet cassette when I heard a rattling sound and thought who on earth has been putting rocks down the toilet? I discovered that the cassette was heavily coated in calcified 'something'-there were stalagmites in there! Some gentle taping with a rubber mallet brought forth about a pound of rock hard material, not unlike slate or shale. I suppose that the cassette is a sort of perfect mini cave- no pot-holers in there though.

I do not use harmful chemicals in my cassette, I have been using Tesco bio detergent tablets for years & the inside of the cassette is like brand new.

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