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Post by Phil Bowen on Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:31 am

My Autosleeper Burford has gone into a garage to gave some work done on the ABS sensor but they can't find the locking wheel nuts. Does anyone know where they are kept?

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Re: Locking wheel nuts

Post by chrisk on Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:44 am

usually glove compartment
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Post by Phil Bowen on Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:47 am

they say they have looked in there

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:24 am

In the tool space under the passenger side floor area? Do you mean the locking bolt key socket?

If you bought second hand, probably with the previous owner.

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Post by Phil Bowen on Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:48 am

Yes I do mean locking bolt socket and I did get it second hand. They have looked in the passenger side tool space and not there !!!!! thanks Peter

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:05 pm

You are looking for a plastic box containing the 4 ordinary wheel bolts and the socket. Could be in the battery space under the passenger space or in any of the other lockers. If not, the garage should be able to easily remove the old ones (distructively) and new bolts will be needed.

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Re: Locking wheel nuts

Post by Liam on Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:34 pm

Hi Phil,
As Peter L says - the unlocking wheel socket is probably with the original owner or the dealer!! So it looks like they will have to destructively removed unless you have access to the original owner/dealer.
Locking wheel nuts were not supplied as standard by AS on the Mercedes vehicles and it was incumbent on the owner to procure and fit them if they wished.
If I recall correctly they cost me about £60 for a set of 4 from MB dealer - I choose MB supplied Locking Nuts/Bolts as some of the alternative options did not (IMO) comply fully with the dimensions (shape and length) of the MB original bolts. Its very important that they are the correct profile the alloy wheels.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:39 pm


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Post by Liam on Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:47 pm

PLOUGHLIN wrote:These are the correct spec for MB Sprinter Alloys.
But they don't have the 3 pointed star emblazoned in chrome on the top!!
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:49 pm

No but they don,t cost £60 either. hugegrins

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Re: Locking wheel nuts

Post by Cymro on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:03 pm

Phil: you don't give the age of the Burford. But I would expect your local Merc delaer to have a box of the "keys". Go along and ask.

Mind you, I had very poor service from the Lexus main dealer in Cardiff after I lost my "key" (having left it on the wheelnut after changing the wheel). First they snootily said that my locking wheel nuts weren't Lexus original. I showed the box, and told them that the nuts came as standard fit with the car when I bought it new from them. Then they said "oh this car's so old [14 years at the time] that we don't bother to keep keys - and the design has changed." I was furious.

And then remembered the wonderful Osaka Motors in Newport. They had a large selection of Toyota / Lexus keys, and unlocked my wheel free of charge, allowing me to replace the locking nut with an ordinary one.

So try a MB dealer, or specialising Independent.
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Post by Liam on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:56 pm

Cymro wrote:Phil: you don't give the age of the Burford. But I would expect your local Merc delaer to have a box of the "keys". Go along and ask.
So try a MB dealer, or specialising Independent.
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Which neatly fits in my point above regarding buying Brand Originals!! 
They might cost a bit more in the first place but they should be capable of being undone with a master key by the MB dealer without causing any damage to the alloy wheel.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts

Post by Phil Bowen on Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:20 pm

My Motorhome is a 2013 model and it is at the Merc main dealer in Swansea who dont seem to have a set of keys as they are going to get ATS to drill out the wheel nut. They have had the van all day and basically done nothing. I'm going to garage tomorrow to see if I can find the case. As ATS cant do it till Monday!!!!! So any other suggestions about where they could be will be gratefully received

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Re: Locking wheel nuts

Post by Paramedic on Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:59 pm

If you can be assured that a thorough search has been undertaken to find the bolt socket, you will find the previous owner's address from the registration document to enquire about the said socket?

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Re: Locking wheel nuts

Post by Cymro on Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:03 pm

I would expect to find the key located with the jack, possibly in the same bag if there is one. My Nuevo is on a Peugeot so I don't know where the jack is stored on your model. On mine, it's all kept under the front passenger seat.
Hope you find it!  And hope even more that you won't need it before you find it!!
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:59 pm

There is no such thing as a "master key" for locking bolts/nuts. An MB dealer will be able to order a replacement key socket if you have remembered to note the key ref number, as can the maker of the ones I linked to earlier. If the locking bolts were supplied as OE the build date will tell them which key is required, but as far as I know AS don't supply locking bolts with their Premium pack, so they are very likely to be aftermarket additions, even if overpriced MB bolts.

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Post by mr standfast on Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:45 pm

When I 'mislaid' the locking key from my Jeep I got a replacement from lockingwheelnutkeys.co.uk , arrived in a couple of days,but I think they do overnight. Was easy to order via the website.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts

Post by Liam on Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:25 am

Hi Phil,
Just a thought on likely hiding places - have you looked in the safe? I am assuming you have one somewhere on the van.
If its just the Key on its own (we only carry the key with us without the old bolts) so it is relatively small and could be hidden in a corner of the safe.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts

Post by Phil Bowen on Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:12 pm

Thanks to everyone for their help and Liam we were going to look in the safe today, as we were able to go to the garage today and search ourselves . I found the nuts in a locker with the safe in it so alls well that ends well.Thanks again for your very helpful suggestions

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Post by Liam on Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:28 pm

Phil,
Glad it ended well with no unnecessary damage to your alloys or indeed additional cost to yourself!
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