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Post by Fairford on Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:06 pm

Hi folks


I've recently taken delivery of my new Fairford van. It's a great van and had two rear speakers for the radio/media in the lounge/rear bed area.
I was looking forward to lying in bed listening to the radio. Or relaxing on the sofa listening to my music. Or just being in the van with the radio or music playing.

The problem is that when the ignition is turned off, the radio/media player cuts off after 20 minutes. There is no option to extend that time.
This renders the rear speakers virtually useless.

I've been in contact with my dealer who referred me to Peugeot.
Peugeot referred me to my dealer.
I contacted Autosleeper who said it's not possible to override the 20 minute cut off!
My dealer says vans for conversion don't have this facility whereas other Peugeot vans do.

I think Autosleeper need to sort this out. Maybe replace the radio.

Have you had problems? They seem to apply to all new Peugeot Boxer based motorhomes.

Cheers
Brian
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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Maasai Warrior on Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:34 pm

We had this problem on our previous motorhome, an AS Pollensa, but not on our present van, a 2014 Broadway, Peugeot Boxer base.
Radio stays on as long as we like, though we are careful not to leave it on and possibly flatten the battery.

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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Wargenwolf on Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:35 pm


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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Gromit on Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:29 am

Maasai Warrior wrote:We had this problem on our previous motorhome, an AS Pollensa, but not on our present van, a 2014 Broadway, Peugeot Boxer base.
Radio stays on as long as we like, though we are careful not to leave it on and possibly flatten the battery.
Pete
Which of course is why it switches off after 20 minutes Pete. smile!

When I quizzed A/S about it 10 or 12 years ago, I was told the 20 minute switch off was introduced to stem the constant flow of complaints about flat batteries from people who forgot to switch off the radio.

Sounds feasible to me, but even with my paltry knowledge of electricals I would have thought it was a simple wiring job to provide the radio with an unswitched power supply?? scratch head  (At the owner's risk of course, and no come back on A/S if they flatten their batteries. )

Don't know - the term "paltry" is entirely aposite in my case! Whistle1

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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Bulletguy on Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:32 pm

Gromit wrote:
Maasai Warrior wrote:We had this problem on our previous motorhome, an AS Pollensa, but not on our present van, a 2014 Broadway, Peugeot Boxer base.
Radio stays on as long as we like, though we are careful not to leave it on and possibly flatten the battery.
Pete
Which of course is why it switches off after 20 minutes Pete. smile!

When I quizzed A/S about it 10 or 12 years ago, I was told the 20 minute switch off was introduced to stem the constant flow of complaints about flat batteries from people who forgot to switch off the radio.

Sounds feasible to me, but even with my paltry knowledge of electricals I would have thought it was a simple wiring job to provide the radio with an unswitched power supply?? scratch head  (At the owner's risk of course, and no come back on A/S if they flatten their batteries. )

Don't know - the term "paltry" is entirely aposite in my case! Whistle1
It is by simply taking a direct feed through the ignition so it's only off when the ignition is completely off. If Brian isn't sure how to do it i'd suggest he take his van to a local auto electrician who will sort it in minutes.

It's also worth mentioning it will take a heck of a long time for a radio to drain a battery....unless it's already a bit duff. By far the worst culprits for battery drainage are retro fitted alarms.....as i've discovered!


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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Askit on Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:33 pm

I wonder how long it would take for a left on radio to discharge the vehicle battery? Does it make any difference if the radio is a an FM/MW/LW type or DAB. We took a small radio on holiday with us, two AA batteries would last for about two weeks of daily use of several hours a day.

An "upgrade" to a portable DAB has given us something that takes 4 AA batteries an last a maximum of 6 hours (as detailed in small print on the accompanying leaflet) scratch head

We're going back to the old radio  Whistle1

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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Spospe on Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:14 pm

I had this problem on my X250 Boxer and was able to extend the time the radio was on to 180 minutes. I have not seen the radio fitted to the newer X290 vans, but instructions on how to change the X250 are shown here  ............

http://www.autosleeper-ownersforum.com/t8716-switching-peugeot-radios-to-camper-mode

perhaps this method can also be used on X290 models?

It seems ludicrous that we should be discussing this, AS should have this matter bottomed to the point that forum discussion is never needed.
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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by StewPotch on Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:00 pm

There's no point in running a separate supply voltage to the radio because that will make no difference.
The radio detects whether it is receiving a battery 12V or alternator 14V. If it receives 12V after 20 minutes it switches off - nothing you can do about it other than change the radio (which I done on a brand new van).
I also don't get why AS give you speakers in the rear that switch off after 20 minutes!
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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Bulletguy on Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:43 pm

StewPotch wrote:There's no point in running a separate supply voltage to the radio because that will make no difference.
The radio detects whether it is receiving a battery 12V or alternator 14V. If it receives 12V after 20 minutes it switches off - nothing you can do about it other than change the radio (which I done on a brand new van).
I also don't get why AS give you speakers in the rear that switch off after 20 minutes!

The standard Ford radios are awful bits of kit and it was the first thing which got changed on my van. There's no need to spend a fortune either, i bought a brand new Pioneer radio/cd with usb port for just £50 but also replaced the Ford speakers with Alpines (£30).

Maybe AS think entertainment should be banned!!?   shrugg
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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Justus2 on Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:36 am

I am puzzled, and indeed grateful, that our van, on a Fiat (manual) base vehicle does not have a limit on radio use time. It begs the question as to why vans, from the same factory, would vary in this way.
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Re: Radio cut off after 20 minutes

Post by Spospe on Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:12 am

Maasai Warrior wrote:Peugeot Boxer base.
Radio stays on as long as we like
Pete

Are you 100% sure of this Pete? I have a 2014 Duo on the Peugeot base and I switched our radio from the supplied 20 minutes to the "Camper" 180 minutes. There is no way of making the supplied radio unit run indefinitely, although for most practical purposes 180 minutes at a time seems indefinite.
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