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Post by Wargenwolf on Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:31 am

I'm saving reading the manual until I go away on Monday and I can't see anything obvious that needs this screwing to it scratch head

What's it for ?


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Re: What's This ?

Post by Gromit on Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:37 am

Don't know, but I've got one as well! scratch head

Something to do with wheels I suspect. Maybe an adapter for a skinny wheel, which we don't have and wouldn't want on a motorhome??

Wild guess I'm afraid, but somebody will know.

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Re: What's This ?

Post by dbroada on Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:39 am

I've got one too and was going to take a photo soon and ask the same question.

Like Dave I decided it was probably something to do with the spare wheel.

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Wargenwolf on Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:46 pm

Phew ! .... And I thought it was going to be something really obvious and I'd feel stupid. hugegrins

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Cymro on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:08 pm

Ah! Been there, and eventually solved it.

When I took delivery of the new Van in March 2015, I decided to pretend to change a wheel. So using the sockets provided, I wound down the spare wheel. It's suspended under the van, and it can be lowered to the floor. How to get it off the cradle? Obviously, the cradle "saucer" must be larger than the hole in the wheel, or the wheel couldn't be safely suspended. I failed.

So I wound the spare back in place and went over to my local Peugeot main dealer. The chap at reception thought I was a cretin when I described the problem: "it just unhooks, Sir". But the mechanic who came out to show me was as baffled as me. "Ah. This must be a new system."  Eventually, with the 2 of us under the van, he managed to fiddle the saucer through the hole: it DOES go through!

So what's the mystery plate? Ah - the normal road wheels are alloys, unlike the steel spare. And the profile is apparently different. And so, in order to re-hang the flat alloy wheel back on the cradle for the drive to the tyre depot, you need that additional plate.  Couldn't face taking off an alloy roadwheel to try!

Answer: don't bother to rehang the flat alloy wheel - sling it inside and drive to the depot (but remember to wind up the saucer first!) You then won't need that plate.


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Re: What's This ?

Post by Gromit on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:12 pm

Thanks Cymro.
Your final sentence is most apposite. Something else to put up in the attic, out of the way. up!

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Jaytee on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:14 pm

I so see the truck goes on the drive OK Ken allthumbz

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Cymro on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:18 pm

I knew I'd jotted a note to self when I looked at that plate in its felt holder. Here's what I wrote at the time:
"The spare is steel; the other 4 are alloy. So in the event of a puncture, you'll need to swap the wheels – but the alloys don't fit the suspension fixing for the spare under the van, So:

The bit of metal (wrapped in blanket in the wheel-changing kit) is the plate that you fit into the centre of the alloy wheel that has the puncture, so as to be able to winch it up into place. The three bolts are to secure the alloy wheel to the metal plate."

But yes, I can't see me faffing with all that! It's hard enough to remove the spare.

Whereas in my youth (and even recently) I'd not bat an eyelid at changing a wheel on our cars - where the spares are conveniently located and easily removed / replaced - I'm ashamed to admit that on the van I'd call in the cavalry!
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Re: What's This ?

Post by Justus2 on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:24 pm

I've just had a look.. we have one too !  
I seem to remember at handover that it is something to do with the spare wheel.
 I would guess, having had a look, that the black plate is designed not to be fitted to the vehicle wheel on the road, but is designed to be fitted to the punctured alloy wheel which has been removed to enable it to be hoisted up, under the rear of the van once the steel spare has been removed....  
I can find no reference to it in the handbook, perhaps that's because the handbook is for a box van, and vans tend to have steel wheels all round, not alloys.
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Re: What's This ?

Post by Wargenwolf on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:27 pm

Thanks Cymro, I'll keep it on board, but unlikely to ever use it. Breakdown recovery can sort it.

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Wargenwolf on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:32 pm

Jaytee wrote:I so see the truck goes on the drive OK Ken allthumbz
It's a better fit than the measurements suggested John. I think I allowed too much for the overhang from the garage and trying to guess how much the approach angle would have added to it.

If I reverse the back doors up to the gutter, the front of the van barely overhangs the block paving and I could reduce that further by putting it in forwards if I ever needed to. 

As long as I have full control over the block paving, there is enough room behind the van to open the doors.

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Gromit on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:33 pm

Hi Justus2

Practice needed, to speed up your typing. biggrin  hugegrins

Isn't it annoying when that happens. I've been caught out many times, and you feel such a twerp!  shrugg

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Justus2 on Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:52 pm

Gromit wrote:Hi Justus2

Practice needed, to speed up your typing. biggrin  hugegrins

Isn't it annoying when that happens. I've been caught out many times, and you feel such a twerp!  shrugg
Not really, as you say it happens... I was diverted mid message by the other half..... Hmmmm smile!

Important thing is we all now know what the curious device is for  gimmefive
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Re: What's This ?

Post by sylvester1954 on Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:58 pm

Thank you all for answering one of my listed Peugeot questions too up!
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Re: What's This ?

Post by Machloop on Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:09 am

Wargenwolf wrote:If I reverse the back doors up to the gutter.........
Most happy up!
Good job you avoided the cumfymatic. You'd have modified that gutter by now, reversing uphill in a tight spot is nigh on impossible [without looking a complete prat].
But the FIAT wheels are all alloys.

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Hubert on Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:32 am

Wargenwolf wrote:Thanks Cymro, I'll keep it on board, but unlikely to ever use it. Breakdown recovery can sort it.


Check the wording in the terms and conditions if you are referring to Peugeot Assistance, you may be in for a shock !

Changing punctured wheels is not covered quick_run

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Cymro on Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:16 pm

Thanks, Hubert, - I should have expanded that phrase: I meant to refer to the third-party road rescue service which many owners buy. In my case it's the RAC. Now I confess that I haven't read the small print of their offering, but I'd be very annoyed if it doesn't even cover changing a flat wheel. Thanks, however, for pointing out the limitations of Peugeot's roadside assistance.
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Re: What's This ?

Post by Hubert on Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:06 am

It was surprising to find that changing wheels is not covered by Peugeot Assistance (operated by the AA in the UK) especially as I have always been told to call them out if you get a puncture.

Quote was aimed more at Wargenwolf as I notice he has a 2017 van and so is probably relying on Peugeot Assistance.

I have just renewed my cover with Peugeot but had to pay an additional £20 to cover punctures and other "non-vehicle faults"

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Quilter on Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:05 am

Thank you. You've explained something.

Two winters ago someone put a knife through our front wheel on a service area near Bilbao. Red Pennant dealt with it very efficiently and, when the terminally damaged tyre had been replaced with the spare, we were instructed to follow the mechanic and he would take us to a Peugeot truck garage where they had new Camper tyres and could change the tyres back again. We were asked to take the damaged wheel in the van with us however for reasons we could not understand.

I suspect that the mechanic could not put the wheel back on the cradle as the necessary thingy was in a bag in our attic.
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Re: What's This ?

Post by Wargenwolf on Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:04 pm

Machloop wrote:
Wargenwolf wrote:If I reverse the back doors up to the gutter.........
Most happy up!
Good job you avoided the cumfymatic. You'd have modified that gutter by now, reversing uphill in a tight spot is nigh on impossible [without looking a complete prat].
But the FIAT wheels are all alloys.
I wouldn't have dared damage the gutter, it's only been up a week  hugegrins

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Wargenwolf on Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:08 pm

Hubert wrote:It was surprising to find that changing wheels is not covered by Peugeot Assistance (operated by the AA in the UK) especially as I have always been told to call them out if you get a puncture.

Quote was aimed more at Wargenwolf as I notice he has a 2017 van and so is probably relying on Peugeot Assistance.

I have just renewed my cover with Peugeot but had to pay an additional £20 to cover punctures and other "non-vehicle faults"

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Thanks Hubert, but my breakdown is full European through my insurer. 

I'm away at the moment, but no one mentioned Peugeot Assistance and I can't remember seeing any paperwork. That's not to say it's not there, last week was a bit of a whirlwind week smile!

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Re: What's This ?

Post by Mel Battersby on Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:08 am

Thank you Cymro for explaining what the bit of metal thingy is for. Like some others on the forum it baffled me when I first saw it, though I did guess it had to do with, somehow, the wheels.
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Re: What's This ?

Post by Cymro on Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:31 am

It was a pleasure, Mel, to be able to contribute something to the Forum: I've learned so much from it that, for once, it was nice to be able to make a contribution!
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Re: What's This ?

Post by dbroada on Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:00 am

Yes, thanks Cymro.

Isn't it strange how many of us have one and how few really knew what it was for. Many of us assumed it was "something" to do with the wheels but that was about it.

And strange how few of us wanted to be the first to ask.

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