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Post by samleeds on Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:09 am

Sadly I am about to loose my licence as I have been diagnosed with inoperable Brain cancer. I have to let my pride and Joy go and am now asking for advice on what I should do. She is a very very good example of well looked after 1993 Autosleeper VW clubman with a 2 liter petrol engine. This van was owned By Marcus a forum member from new and its had regular servicing and the best of care all the way down the line. She has only done 64,000 miles and starts and runs like a dream. 

Mechanically she is A1 and structurally as solid as a rock. Bodywork is prestine and the interior is well looked after with masses of upgrades and changes that make her a one off. Listed are the extras I have installed....

1. 3 x 100w lightweight flexi solar panels delivering 12 amps on a sunny day and 3 amps when its dull and rainny.
2. 3 x 110ah expensive gel batteries for leisure and a new 80ah for the motor.
3. I have boxed in and installed a drop down 24 inch brand new smart tv that gets internet using only your phone for data.
4. Google chrome cast and a lightweight tablet to connect to the internet to live stream uk tv when abroad without the aerial.
5. Status 550 directional aerial with boost and signal finder configuration for the uk that delivers freeview and my player TV.
6. 5000 watt inverter wired in so at the flick of a switch the whole van has 240v which powers kettles and hairdryer in a field.
7. Gaslow LPG installed with external filling point making topping up easy.
8. She has a top of the line rear mounted scooter rack and upgraded suspension and tyres to accommodate my scooter.
9. She carries a 125 cc retro Lexmoto that carries me and the wife with ease anywhere and easy to load and unload.
10. She has been weight plate upgraded to allow more payload and trust me, we carry everything.
11. The above the bed double cab has been modified to carry everything from water carriers, bedding, plus needed equipment. 
12. Toilet cassette has been upgraded to the SOG unit so ne need for chemicals and no smells when in use. 
13. Dont do that number.
14. Ive installed several usb charging points and a couple of low grade inverters for lap top charging and ancillary equipment.
15. All those annoying led lights at noght from the telly and the like can be isolated by one switch which the wife loves.
16. Silver screen blinds that are easy to fit and are a god send for winter and summer nights alike.
17. full fiamma 45 fitted and comes with a custom designed wrap around high windbreak with full carpeting and outside comfort.
18. Comes with a 35 liter fresh water filling butt with internal pump so you dont need to drive to get water, its internally worked.
19. CD and radio installed with speakers in the van that throw out a good sound.
20. She will come with all the extras like plates, cups, glasses, trays, bbq, step, carpets, 2 x new duvalays, etc etc.
21. New tyres all round, upgraded for a better workload and easier ride which was needed for the extra weight on the back.

Ive spent over £3000 on the upgrades and numerous hours of labour on her just so she is good to go and drives like a car. The first person to drive this van will fall in love with her. She is pokey and quiet and hugs the road perfectly. My wife says she drives like a little van but has all the trappings of a big home on wheels. Before I bought her, I tried several autosleepers and this one is a world apart for a driving experience. If the bike and rack are not needed, they just lift off and both can be stored in the garage. 

I really dont know what to do. This is a dream van fully tricked out and ready to go and it would be a shame to strip her down and sell the extras on e bay. She is the perfect adventure vehicle and needs to be used and loved like we love her.

Question is do we sell her stripped, or as is and for how much. My mechanic says she is in the best condition he has ever seen a van of that age and can cruise all day long at 70 mph but i leave her at 60 to get a good MPG and added comfort. My heads not really in things at the moment after my brain tumour news, so forgive me if I seem ditzy. I just wanted some warm advice from fellow members before i unleash her on the e bay wolves. Thanks all for reading.

Sam

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Post by rose49f on Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:19 am

Hi Sam. Sending you my love and thinking of you. No one can imagine what you are going through.
Your van sounds amazing. I would keep the van as it is for now and see if you can get the right price but if you're finding it hard your best bet would be is to strip it. Don't put it on eBay try auto traders and motorhome sites first. Preloved is another good site. There is someone out there who will love your van as much as you.
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Post by AndyPK on Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:35 am

Our thoughts and very best wishes are with you, Sam.
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Post by fenderbender on Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:04 am

Really sorry to hear this Sam, very best wishes.

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Post by -mojo- on Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:44 pm

A modern VW base vehicle with a petrol engine is quite rare these days, so with LEZ and the like becoming more common there is sure to be a demand.

My experience of Ebay is that it should not be avoided - their market is so large that it can't be ignored. But pay for a classified - don't list it as an auction. IIRC it's £20 to list and no final value fee.

Personally, I would not strip the parts out of it (other than perhaps the inverter, but that's a debate for elsewhere!). Secondhand parts are not typically worth enough to make the effort worthwhile, IMO.
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Post by burlingtonboaby on Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:48 pm

That took the wind out of my sails Sam, really, stay positive and enjoy life with your family.
The CAMC have a good classified sales section, although its now filled with dealership vans, as its free .
All the best for the future.
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Post by Gromit on Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:52 pm

Mojo makes some excellent points in my opinion.

I don't know if you might find a buyer in the Autosleeper Owners' Club? Quite a few of them obviously cherish their older but immaculate vans, so I think there would be some interest.

I don't know how you would go about advertising it to them, or even if it's "allowed", but Peter Brown is their Chairman so he would be the ideal person to ask.

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Post by Bmwdumptruck on Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:27 pm

My recent experience of selling cars and motorbikes has proven to me that the only place to sell these days is Ebay.  Love it or hate it, its the only place that works.
As has been said, list it as a classified ad.  I've a bike listed at the moment, £14.99 for 30days.  
Do a good ad, keep it clear and precise and take good pics.  Just ignore the 'best price' and 'swap for....' messages. 

And good luck with everything.
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Post by RobM48 on Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:55 pm

As an avid follower of the Monocoque Forum one gets to 'know' subscribers although we never meet but our thoughts and best wishes are with you and your family Sam.
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Post by daisy mae on Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:08 pm

My best wishes to you and your family Sam, must be devastating for you, good luck with your sale, looks a lovely van and you should have no trouble getting a good price.

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Post by Paulmold on Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:00 pm

I'm always lost for the right thing to say when I hear/see such news. My best wishes to you Sam.

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Post by meanchris on Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:10 pm

We're sorry to hear this development Sam, please accept our best wishes and hopes.
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Post by logburner on Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:52 pm

Hi Sam,
I've no idea what to say about your news, only just seen it today. I went away earlier,but still can't get my head around it..it is devastating, and can only send my love to you and your family, as nothing prepares you for this situation in life.
Your lovely clubman, that you have been improving ever since you acquired it, I feel, should be left in tact, initially, as someone may well see it as the the ultimately desirable van that they would won't themselves,and seeing all the work you have put into it, in the way of individual improvements, be prepared to pay a premium price for it. I know I paid well over the odds for mine, as it was what I wanted at the time, and still spent more on it, getting cruise control and stuff.  Don't forget the forum "for sale" section.
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Post by hdv on Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:58 pm

Thinking of you and your family, best wishes,
Helen.
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Post by howdenbiker on Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:27 pm

Very sorry to hear about your news,  even though I only joined today please accept my best wishes.
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Post by cheethama1 on Thu May 04, 2017 8:24 pm

Hi Sam, 

 I am trying to sell my Autosleeper Volkswagon Clubman at the moment.  I am just about to give it to www.motorhomedepot.com   They sound pretty good.  Google them for contact details.
All the best to you with everything,
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Post by samleeds on Fri May 05, 2017 9:12 am

cheethama1 wrote:Hi Sam, 

 I am trying to sell my Autosleeper Volkswagon Clubman at the moment.  I am just about to give it to www.motorhomedepot.com   They sound pretty good.  Google them for contact details.
All the best to you with everything,
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Post by howdenbiker on Sat May 06, 2017 7:16 am

Anne,  have a good look at motorhomedepot on line, they get mixed reviews, seems to be very much how good the local broker is.
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Post by samleeds on Sat May 06, 2017 10:23 am

I was called by Steven from Home depot after i went on their website. He offered me £8000 cash for my van but after seeing photos and all the extras he said he would advertise it for £13,000. When I asked if he would offer me more cash, he said they can only give trade value. I gelt they were a bit like the timeshare men of old pressurising the sale to buy your van then when that wont work, they ask for huge comms. I ddnt really like them but who knows, different folks different strokes.

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Post by daisy mae on Sat May 06, 2017 11:18 am

Unfortunately Sam , I was told by a dealer that they add on £4000-£5000 , would have thought you would get a lot more selling privately, is this an option for you?, that doesn`t seem much after all the work and money /time you have spent on your van.

Hope you do get a good price and very best wishes to you and yours at this very difficult time.
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Post by samleeds on Sat May 06, 2017 11:47 am

daisy mae wrote:Unfortunately Sam , I was told by a dealer that they add on £4000-£5000 , would have thought you would get a lot more selling privately, is this an option for you?, that doesn`t seem much after all the work and money /time you have spent on your van.

Hope you do get a good price and very best wishes to you and yours at this very difficult time.
Best regards,
Margaret
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They are just like every other sales organisation but in my book they do very little for it. The need me to do all the pics, the texts and the selling points. All they do is farm it out and reel in the buyers by phone contact. Only pitching up here to remove the van with the buyer who has to submit a non returnable deposit for them should the buyer back out. £5000 for advertising space isnt  GREAT DEAL FOR ANYONE EXCEPT THEM BUT THEY RESERVE THE RIGHT TO EARN MONEY, JUST NOT MINE. THEY SEEM TO PONSE OFF THE DESPERATE AND STUPID.

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Post by -mojo- on Sat May 06, 2017 12:08 pm

I have to agree. They seem to want to make the same markup as a dealer, but without the (significant) cost of running a dealership, and without any of the ongoing warranty obligations. They strike me as parasitic, but for those that need to sell and can't find any other outlet, perhaps they might be a last resort...
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Post by howdenbiker on Sat May 06, 2017 12:35 pm

As a buyer, the vans they advertise seem to be at dealer prices yet if you buy through them you have no come back as it is like buying privately.
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Post by samleeds on Sat May 06, 2017 5:39 pm

howdenbiker wrote:As a buyer, the vans they advertise seem to be at dealer prices yet if you buy through them you have no come back as it is like buying privately.
Ive been told that if you buy at list price through them they charge a broker fee and offer all kinds of extras. Some of their advertised vans are pretty cheap but they will be the people desperate to sell and they get their commissions irrespective. Im getting a bad feeling about them but i wont be using them anyway as I hate salesmen anyway.

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Post by mattpc on Sun May 14, 2017 7:56 pm

Sam this is dreadful, I've been really interested in the love and care you have lavished on that Clubman. I have one too and I do the best I can but I doubt it's as pimped (in a good way) as yours. Don't take £8000 for it, you would be robbing yourself. It's got to be worth at least £12000. I suppose if you really wanted a quick sale then you could take £10000 but if it's as good as you say it is then it seems low. If you can afford to sit on it and don't urgently need a sale, I would suggest you advertise it in lots of the usual places, including this forum. Someone will grab the opportunity to buy a nice van like that and will pay a decent price to you. You would be sensible to hold on to your asset until the proper money comes along (which can take a little time with anything as specialist and expensive as this).
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