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Post by carrie vib on Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:04 pm

Hi,
we have a year 2000 Peugeot boxer autosleeper symbol. It doesn't have a wind out awning or an awning rail on it. Neither does any drive away awning fit with any of the kits on the black plastic edge . We wondered about getting an awning rail and asking the guy who services our van to stick on an awning rail. we don't want any screws in as we don't want to chance any damage. I have seen different people suggest different glues and some people say that then the if it falls off it will damage the surface of the van.
So I am totally confused. Has anyone here glued an awning rail on successfully for a drive away awning? if so what glue is best. thanks
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Re: awning rail - can it be glued on

Post by Greyhound on Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:32 pm

Sikaflex.
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Post by carrie vib on Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:37 pm

Which one as I have seen a few different ones mentioned?
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Post by carrie vib on Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:38 pm

The silkaflex has different numbers so I am not sure which is the best for this job. The guy who will do the fitting hasn't done this before so will leave it up to us to get the glue etc.
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Post by Greyhound on Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:00 pm

Sikaflex 512 is the usual one as far as I know.

My solar panel is still very solidly attached to the roof with it. Would hold an awning rail no problem.
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Post by Gromit on Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:12 pm

I would agree with Noggin.

Holding the rail in position while the Sikaflex sets might be a puzzler, but it is clearly a feasible option as my tugger friend had an entire awning professionally fitted with Sikaflex only last week. up!

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Post by carrie vib on Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:30 pm

thank you that's very helpful
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Post by Toffee on Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:29 pm

Ours was sikaflexed and screwed it got pulled off and damaged the van, best method is throw the string or straps over the roof and peg into the ground, very secure in a storm, we found threading tent poles into the part that would allow attach to the rail made it much better in the wind

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Post by carrie vib on Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:39 pm

thank you for that. I didn't quite understand the last part. Can you clarify where you thread the tent poles to make it more secure in wind?
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Post by Toffee on Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:22 pm

The end of the opening in the awning that connects to the van had a sewn in tube that accepts a tent pole. This gives a straight edge that you can rest onto the side or roof of the van, if you have a gutter of rail it allows you to clamp the pole to the gutter. We never bothered we placed the awning opening on top of the roof with some tennis balls between it ant the roof to stop it banging in the wind, and pulled the guy ropes over the roof and pegged them down on the opposite side of the van. 
Without the pole the awning would whip up and down on the top of the van in gusts, the pole made it stay in place and the guy ropes didn't pull the pegs out, does that help?

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Post by carrie vib on Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:47 pm

thank you that helps. I didn't think you could just rest it on top of the van. not sure where we would rest the pole on our high top and we don't have a gutter but we could certainly throw the ropes over the top. did you have problem with noise of guy ropes moving on van roof in the wind? or did you manage to find a way to stop them moving about?
thanks so much for your advise.
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Post by Toffee on Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:54 pm

They didn't move and it was much more secure it's about finding what suits your van, don't rule out a rail but try other methods first, we ended up with a rail after having a pop up roof fitted to our T5 but the method without the rail was superior.

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Post by carrie vib on Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:57 pm

thank you. our van is old and cost us so much money to repair I don't want to chance a rail if it might rip off as we just can't afford any more repair so its very helpful to know that guy ropes over the top work well
saves paying for a rail too
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Post by Heanorboy on Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:28 pm

carrie vib wrote:thank you. our van is old and cost us so much money to repair I don't want to chance a rail if it might rip off as we just can't afford any more repair so its very helpful to know that guy ropes over the top work well
saves paying for a rail too
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If you do decide to go with the ropes over the top best to tie a brightly coloured tennis ball to the rope as it makes it a lot easier to get the rope over and acts as a marker of the ropes on the back of the van. I also bought brightly coloured rope so it was more noticeable (I bought red and white barber pole style)
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Post by carrie vib on Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:59 pm

Thanks that is a very good idea. By tie it to the tennis ball do you mean your thread guy rope round the tennis ball and ties it on that way or is there a different way? sorry to be asking stupid questions.
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Post by Heanorboy on Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:55 am

I did it a different way
I drilled through both sides and put a cord through knotted each side of the ball left about two feet at one end with a loop big enough to tread the ball through so when I threw it over looped to end of guy rope and when secured hung it via the loop at around eye level on the pegged rope, hope this makes sense
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