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Post by snow863 on Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:17 pm

Cleaned the windscreen on our Kingham.

When I rinsed off the gutter along the bottom of the windscreen filled up with water which didnt drain away.

Cleaned out the gutter and discovered the pipe connecting the drainage hole to the wheel arch was blocked solid full of mud leaves etc stuck behind the plastic wheel arch.

In the end removed pipe to clear and fitted nylon mesh at gutter end to stop it getting blocked again.

Does anyone else have this problem?

Seems to me we might be missing a grille to the drainage hole to prevent 

stuff going down the hole?  shrugg

I think the plastic arches are an AS fitting? But these block the pipe hence it had filled up with muck!

Has anyone else solved this issue?
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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by boxerman on Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:46 pm

The most puzzling thing about your post is why you keep changing font sizes in mid sentence. or why you should change font sizes at all?

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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by snow863 on Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:29 pm

No idea why that's happened didnt look like that when I posted it.... most puzzling... scratch head
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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by -mojo- on Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:32 am

snow863 wrote:discovered the pipe connecting the drainage hole to the wheel arch was blocked solid full of mud leaves etc stuck behind the plastic wheel arch.

Are you sure this is not just debris thrown up from the wheels, adhering and building up? I just had to help someone clean their slightly neglected van, and the accumulation of debris in some parts of the wheel arch and underneath was nearly half an inch thick in places. It's surprising how quickly it can build up during the winter.

I should add that I'm not suggesting that your van is neglected - just that some places away from the immediate wash of the water off the wheels can really trap road dirt.

[BTW, the font size thing may happen if you are cutting and pasting the text from somewhere else - e.g. a text editor.]
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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by snow863 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:26 am

The wheel arches are clean. Road dirt cant get into the pipe anyway as the outlet is behind the (AS fitted?) plastic wheel arch lining.
It seems the pipe was blocked from leaves etc washing into the pipe from the gutter. The drain hole and pipe are about 30mm dia so big enough for wet leaves to get washed into quite easily.
Mine has no mesh or grille fitted to the drain hole and so debris washed into the pipe gets stuck behind the plastic wheel arch and must have built up over the vans 3 year life until I discovered it earlier. The pipe was blocked solid!
Seems mad to have the pipe outlet covered by the wheel arch lining and the inlet has no grate/mesh covering it to stop stuff getting into the pipe?
Unless of course I am missing a grate/mesh cover?
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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by Justus2 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:11 am

Our Warwick XL was exactly the same. I cleaned it out just a few weeks ago just after we had a new windscreen fitted. The drain on the drivers side was blocked with smallish leaves etc part way down .. There is also a joint in the windscreen gutter drain, just above the engine rocker cover. When I first tried to clear the pipe out by pouring water down from the windscreen, I noticed water dripping on to the engine. I next discovered that the bottom end of the drain, inside the wheel arch was completely blocked. Its clear now and water flows ok but I've taped up the joint above the engine and will in future check the bottom end periodically... PS there is no mesh to prevent small leaves from entering, and the passengers side drain was ok. Pretty poor design I would say, or some such similar phrase  winks
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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by Wargenwolf on Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:08 am

I had exactly the same issue with my Bolero on the Fiat Ducato. Living next to a wood meant the scuttle would quickly block, especially in Autumn and required regular rodding.

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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by snow863 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:47 am

Thanks
Justus - didnt realise there is an outlet both sides will get on to the passenger side after breakfast!
We also have a drip over the engine in the middle.. will tape that too at the same time.
Does your outlet run out behind the plastic wheel arch linings? That's the real problem for us because you cant just rod the pipe through like Wargenwolf does on his Bolero. The bottom end of the pipe has the plastic wheel arch lining up against it so rodding it doesnt help as the stuff in the pipe just gets packed up against the inside of the wheel arch!
Only way to clear the pipe is to take it right off clean it and put it back on! So I have fitted some nylon mesh over the drain hole end of the pipe to stop leaves going in. Hopefully this will resolve the issue but its really rubbish design.
Will definitely discus with AS when I next go visit them later in the year.
Does anyone know for certain if the plastic wheel arch linings on the 2014 Boxer van conversions were Peugeot or AS fitted? If they were fitted by Peugeot I am still in their warranty but I think its an AS fit?
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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by Gromit on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:09 am

Font sizes fixed - no extra charge. up!

The drain blockage is a common problem as said already.

I think I have come up with the almost perfect solution. I've taken some bottle brushes and cut them down to a convenient length to shove into the holes. About two or three inches of bristle is enough, and trim the handle off so it's grippable but doesn't show. A snug, but not too tight fit in the holes is what you want, so the bristles just grip.

When the crud builds up it's easy to pick out the worst from the channel, then lift out the brushes and wash them under the tap.

Can't think of a better or more convenient solution.

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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by snow863 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:46 am

Thanks Dave thats a brilliant idea... bottle brushes on order!
Thanks for the font fix too!
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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by Machloop on Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:25 am

No problem on our FIAT but its only been washed three times in twelve months [ All together now - Happy birthday Van D'Or  happy birthday ]. 
I find the dirt gives an extra layer of protection from the elements.  up!

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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by Justus2 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:33 am

snow863 wrote:Thanks
Justus - didnt realise there is an outlet both sides will get on to the passenger side after breakfast!
We also have a drip over the engine in the middle.. will tape that too at the same time.
Does your outlet run out behind the plastic wheel arch linings? That's the real problem for us because you cant just rod the pipe through like Wargenwolf does on his Bolero. The bottom end of the pipe has the plastic wheel arch lining up against it so rodding it doesnt help as the stuff in the pipe just gets packed up against the inside of the wheel arch!
Only way to clear the pipe is to take it right off clean it and put it back on! So I have fitted some nylon mesh over the drain hole end of the pipe to stop leaves going in. Hopefully this will resolve the issue but its really rubbish design.
Will definitely discus with AS when I next go visit them later in the year.
Does anyone know for certain if the plastic wheel arch linings on the 2014 Boxer van conversions were Peugeot or AS fitted? If they were fitted by Peugeot I am still in their warranty but I think its an AS fit?

Does your outlet run out behind the plastic wheel arch linings?




Yes it does, Ours is a FIAT but its the same van
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Post by pstallwood on Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:08 pm

What I did is put the hose with spray nozzle on down the drain hole with the water going fairly gently. Then go under the wheel arch and gently pull the plastic out so that the water flows freely. It is amazing what comes out.

Whatever you do do not detach the rubber pipe. My trick as above was not working and I could feel that there was something blocking the pipe - turned out to be an acorn that was stopping the water running down and emptying the gulley. Only problem now is that I cannot get both ends of the pipe back into place at the same time so the pipe just dangles - luckily the bottom end still directs the water away from the engine. Not too worried as the problem will be cured by the new van when it arrives eventually.

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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by Wargenwolf on Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:38 pm

snow863 wrote:......you cant just rod the pipe through like Wargenwolf does on his Bolero......

DID !!.... The Bolero sold in 2015 and the house next to the woods last year smile!

The new Kingham has been a long time in the waiting, but should be here this coming Thursday and the new house isn't next to a wood, but I have the rod ready just incase it's needed allthumbz

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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by snow863 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:48 pm

Wargenwolf... The Bolero is different you can see the pipe outlet in the wheel arch so it can be rodded through. If your Kingham is the same as mine you cant rod through because the plastic wheel arch lining covers the bottom outlet of the pipe. Whatever you use to rod with will just pack the crud up against the plastic lining and block the outlet completely.
Dave's bottle brush method (above) is a brilliant solution though!


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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by Wargenwolf on Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:57 pm

snow863 wrote:Wargenwolf... The Bolero is different you can see the pipe outlet in the wheel arch do it can be rodded through. If your Kingham is the same as mine you cant rod through because the plastic wheel arch lining covers the bottom outlet of the pipe. Whatever you use to rod with will just pack the crud up against the plastic lining and block the outlet completely.
Dave's bottle brush method (above) is a brilliant solution though!
I'll check it before Autumn to see if the 2017 offerings have been improved, but I won't hold my breath. 

Without actually being able to check, would it not be possible to drill a hole through the wheel arch and pass the scuttle pipe through it via a sealing rubber grommet ?

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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by snow863 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:17 pm

Wargenwolf... I am very reluctant to drill the wheel arch but I am happy that Dave's bottle brush method will be fine as it will stop the crud getting down the pipe in the 1st place and make it much easier to keep clear.
Am sure this has been fixed in the 2017 models ... enjoy!
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Post by pjkxpjkx on Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:36 pm

I cut off the pipe to the wheel arch and fitted a washing machine hose which goes straight down the side of the engine to vent on the ground.  Sorted.
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Re: Peugeot Boxer Kingham windscreen gutter block

Post by snow863 on Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:00 am

Thanks Pete
Will definitely look at this again if the bottle brush diesnt solve my problem.
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