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Post by Grey Sage on Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:13 pm

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I have a 1995 Renault Trafic with an Autosleeper Recro conversion.  Does anyone know what it weighs unladen? The Trafic manual gives a maximum laden weight of 2450 kg, and a pre-conversion weight of 1,290 kg, hence a payload of 1,160 kg, but I'm sure the conversion has to weigh more. 

I need to calculate a maximum payload before my son uses it for a booze cruise to Calais biggrin
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Re: Weight of Trafic Autosleeper Recro

Post by -mojo- on Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:45 pm

In those days A/S was very lax with their documentation for their models - I had a Rapport and it came with no user documentation at all, though perhaps it had been lost by a previous owner.

Anyway, if you don't have that documentation, the easiest way is to take it to a public weighbridge (locations of which can be found with your favourite internet search tool) and weigh it. My understanding is that the unmanned ones are free, though I've never used one myself - I "accidentally" get disorientated and drive mine onto the weighing plate at my local builder's merchants instead (they have a readout above it that is permanently on).
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Re: Weight of Trafic Autosleeper Recro

Post by PLOUGHLIN on Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:02 pm

That still doesn't tell you if your front or rear axle are overloaded.

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Post by Grey Sage on Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:14 pm

Thanks Mojo.  I'll do that. Unfortunately my builders merchant don't have a weighbridge but there is one just 20 miles away. 

Ploughlin. If I just keep to the maximum load and stack it in the centre of the van, ie between the two axles how dangerous/illegal would that be?
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Post by Paulmold on Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:17 pm

Is there no weight plate in the engine bay? I thought there had to be one by law or did that legislation come later?

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:21 pm

Grey Sage wrote:Thanks Mojo.  I'll do that. Unfortunately my builders merchant don't have a weighbridge but there is one just 20 miles away. 

Ploughlin. If I just keep to the maximum load and stack it in the centre of the van, ie between the two axles how dangerous/illegal would that be?
Not likely to be dangerous, but possible still illegal?
You mention the Owner's Manual. Does it give permissible axle weights in the Technical Specification?

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Post by logburner on Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:59 pm

My  local manned public weighbridge will charge for a full weight printout, but will also add front wheels on, then just rear wheels on, just wriiten on printout, with no extra charge, thus giving weights on both axles.......provided, of course, that you take it there in full running trim.  Whistle1
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Re: Weight of Trafic Autosleeper Recro

Post by burlingtonboaby on Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:24 pm

Grey Sage wrote:Hi Folks

I have a 1995 Renault Trafic with an Autosleeper Recro conversion.  Does anyone know what it weighs unladen? The Trafic manual gives a maximum laden weight of 2450 kg, and a pre-conversion weight of 1,290 kg, hence a payload of 1,160 kg, but I'm sure the conversion has to weigh more. 

I need to calculate a maximum payload before my son uses it for a booze cruise to Calais biggrin
Hi and welcome to the forum from Bridlington 
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Re: Weight of Trafic Autosleeper Recro

Post by -mojo- on Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:32 am

PLOUGHLIN wrote:That still doesn't tell you if your front or rear axle are overloaded.

Sorry - yes. I had assumed that there is a weight plate showing front and rear axle loads, from which you could work out how much you have spare on each. I'm pretty sure a '95 commercial vehicle must have a load plate by law.
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Re: Weight of Trafic Autosleeper Recro

Post by Grey Sage on Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:19 am

-mojo- wrote:
PLOUGHLIN wrote:That still doesn't tell you if your front or rear axle are overloaded.

Sorry - yes. I had assumed that there is a weight plate showing front and rear axle loads, from which you could work out how much you have spare on each. I'm pretty sure a '95 commercial vehicle must have a load plate by law.

The manual and the oval plate both have the maximum loads for the axles - 1,280 kg front, 1,420 kg rear, but that doesn't help.  I still need to know the weight of the empty vehicle to calculate the payload.

I'll take to the nearest weighbridge and ask for the front wheels on, back wheels on figures as well as the total weight.

Thanks to all who responded. It is much appreciated.
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Re: Weight of Trafic Autosleeper Recro

Post by logburner on Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:41 pm

If you load it up, as you would for going away....full water tank, fuel tank, gas bottles, clothes, bit of food, beers !  Ect.  Take it to the weighbridge .......then you will find what extra you can load, or what you need to remove hugegrins.  What it weighs empty is not really required, it is what it is .....shrugg
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Re: Weight of Trafic Autosleeper Recro

Post by chrisvesey on Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:49 pm

Hi,
I would be very careful loading a 22 year old van for a booze cruise, hire a van instead,
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