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Two in one Tablet

Post by Heanorboy on Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:17 pm

After spending zillions of hours I decided that I would like a two in one laptop to replace my aging tablet and research showed for the price the HP Spectre X2 fitted the bill great.
Screen size 13inch good reviews as a stand alone tablet as well as a laptop, good sound for movies etc whilst in the van and a reasonable battery life.
So great choice at a reasonable price great for when we are away and for at home -------WRONG---------

If you are looking for something on the lines of this DONOT buy this as it has one major problem over almost every other make

It can only be charged from the Mains charger supplied with the machine. NO other charger can be bought which will work as HP have put something in the machine or its programme that will not recognise any other.
This of course means that if you are not on mains hook-up you cannot charge via a 12v connection like you can on almost any other tablet, Yes i know that if you have enough solar panel power you can use an inverter but I dont so would have to run the engine.

There is no mention of course before you buy so although I think that the machine works great at home I am going to have a problem when we look to tour next year not using sites much.

Moan over just have to bite the bullett and save up for a Tablet that can work off of 12v

David

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Re: Two in one Tablet

Post by brodco on Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:36 pm

Hi  wave

Heanorboy wrote:If you are looking for something on the lines of this DONOT buy this as it has one major problem over almost every other make

It can only be charged from the Mains charger supplied with the machine.

That has been mentioned on the forum before. It's because there is a chip in the power supply that "talks" to the machine via a third wire in the power plug. HP are certainly not the only make to do this.

You can still use it on the move though, all you need is a small inverter for the PSU or look for a dedicated 12V charger. I'd be surprised if HP didn't make a car charger and you'll probably find a third party charger manufacturer that has "cracked" the third wire issue.

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Re: Two in one Tablet

Post by brodco on Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:46 pm

Hi wave

Is this  the sort off thing you are looking for?

https://smartparts.co.uk/catalog/car_dc_adapters?brand=HP&name=Spectre+X2

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PS Opps just noticed they are all out of stock shrugg shrugg shrugg
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Re: Two in one Tablet

Post by Heanorboy on Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:49 pm

It could be but have you noticed that they dont have any my guess is they couldnt override whatever HP put in the machine
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Re: Two in one Tablet

Post by brodco on Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:50 pm

Hi  wave
Heanorboy wrote: my guess is they couldnt override whatever HP put in the machine

Humm  scratch head

Amazon appear to have a mains version available:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrabook-13-3010dx-719309-003-721092-001-HSTNN-DA35/dp/B00LENSXRE

No good to you but they must have cracked the "smart"  PSU bit in order to make a mains version so there is no reason in principle why they couldn't make a 12V one.

Keep looking but in the mean time it looks as if the small inverter is the way to go.

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Re: Two in one Tablet

Post by Heanorboy on Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:05 pm

brodco wrote:Hi  wave
Heanorboy wrote: my guess is they couldnt override whatever HP put in the machine

Humm  scratch head

Amazon appear to have a mains version available:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrabook-13-3010dx-719309-003-721092-001-HSTNN-DA35/dp/B00LENSXRE

No good to you but they must have cracked the "smart"  PSU bit in order to make a mains version so there is no reason in principle why they couldn't make a 12V one.

Keep looking but in the mean time it looks as if the small inverter is the way to go.

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Many many thanks for looking into this and have taken a long look at what you have found.
HP like to confuse I am sure as what you found was to power the X2 Ultrabook which is a laptop not a two in one and has a simple plug in connector whereas the Spectre X2 has to take the charge through a usb c connector one on each side of the screen (all other things have to be done thro these as well. I have had prolonged correspondence with HP who tell me that the charger for this is a clever bit of kit that charges at 2 different voltages (no idea well beyond me) and that HP have made it this way to protect the machine from damage from aftermarket chargers (yes we all know what that means) and there are no plans to bring out in car charger as on of the voltages is 14.5v so above the 12v in a car battery.
RE the chip in the charger you may well be right, but the information I got from HP was that whatever it is it is in the tablet itself maybe due to the usb c connection maybe.
scratch head scratch head
Don't really want to use an invertor as I thought they used quite a bit of the battery and without solar panel only way to charge up would mean a drive around
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Re: Two in one Tablet

Post by oldfred on Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:22 pm

I got a Toshiba click mini about a year age for less than £200. Poor keyboard but works well as a tablet. Can be charged with any usb.

Good for camping but not powerful enough as a the home pc/laptop.
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Re: Two in one Tablet

Post by matchlessman on Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:23 am

A small inverter should do the trick. You can charge as you drive around, there is no issue if you are on hook up. If just parked up, consumption would probably not be much more than having the TV on. Not perfect, but a solution. Worth giving it a try, especially if you could borrow one.
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