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Post by Peter Brown on Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:27 pm

Eltel wrote:Hi Peter

I am well aware of moisture problems in caravans, Motorhomes as well as houses.
I've been a caravaner/Motorhome owner for over 30 years.
In fact my last Knaus van after two years had to have major work with moisture issues.

What I was trying to identify, as my question was is it across all the Autosleepers range, or certain models and and years.

Thanks

You may not have noticed my answers to your question were included in in italics in the 'quote'

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Post by Pete Taylor on Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:42 pm

It is worth bearing in mind that the sink is not in the same position across the A-S coach-built range, some are on the side, some at the end of the van.

I've just had my Stanton in for a habitation check today and all moisture readings were normal.

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Post by Eltel on Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:01 pm

Pete Taylor wrote:It is worth bearing in mind that the sink is not in the same position across the A-S coach-built range, some are on the side, some at the end of the van.

I've just had my Stanton in for a habitation check today and all moisture readings were normal.
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Post by Paramedic on Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:48 pm

Paramedic wrote:
Yesterday damp reading under offside bench seat and sink reads 30%. Despite our best efforts to monitor any leaks when taking on water, flooding was discovered under sink on one of our trips last summer. How long it had been there is unknown but sufficient to do it's worse and absorb into floor and along lower wall. Obviously on that occasion we were parked where the water had flowed in the opposite direction as previously. The inspection revealed a lot of tension on the push fit pipe couplings due to part of the horizontal plumbing being too long. A 3cm piece had to be cut off that allowed the whole fitment to present properly. Despite this correction, a leak still accrued likely due to the stress (since the build) over the past three years. With this, it's back to the dealer under warranty on Friday to replace damaged parts and presumably monitor damp readings thereafter. All this aggravation and damage due to sloppy workmanship.
Update from above post (last Tuesday)
Today, replaced complete fresh water fitments that was confirmed as leaking. Interestingly the 30% damp reading was due to external water ingress around EHU and LPG filling point due to poor/insuffient sealant. Furthermore just happened to mention long standing shuddering of the step when stowed away on engine start and this was identified as faulty motor that needs replacing. Fortunately all to be corrected under dealer warranty.

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Post by Cymro on Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:03 pm

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Interestingly the 30% damp reading was due to external water ingress around EHU and LPG filling point due to poor/insuffient sealant.

I had that, too. Water getting into underbed locker because of poor or no sealant around those 2 external flaps.
Likewise, the cause of water ingress into skirt locker was found (by AS) to be the absence of seal in the horizontal joint between the bodywork sheets next to the locker (if you put your hand inside the bottom left of the locker, you'll feel the horizontal joint in the vertical bodywork pieces, and that should have sealant. Mine didn't.)
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Post by Paramedic on Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:18 pm

Hi Cymro, curious to know if your water ingress resulted in a high % damp readings in the affected area and if so, how long before readings returned to normal? Regards

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Post by Cymro on Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:24 pm

Nothing so sophisticated was needed to detect the damp: there were trickles of water in both areas - under the Nearside bed (coming from the inadequately sealed external gas and electricity flaps) and in the skirt locker (coming from the unsealed joint). These were rectified by AS when I had occasion to go there after a few months' ownership of the new van.
Thereafter, no readings have been made, but it's obvious that both sources of leak have been adequately sealed.
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Post by Paramedic on Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:00 pm

I'm obliged for your quick reply.

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Post by Cymro on Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:24 pm

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Post by Paramedic on Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:56 am

artheytrate wrote:Thanks Pete we are starting back for home tomorrow 1st November, the damp patch is at the side of the bench toilet right across to the chest of drawers. Hope your water problem is now solved after all your hard work.
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Hi artheytrate, with the dealer discovery yesterday that our 30% moisture reading was the result of poor non sealant surrounding both EHU and LPG fixtures, was your damp due to similar fault surrounding the flush filling point? Whatever cause, hope it has now been rectified. Regards.

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Post by artheytrate on Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:16 am

Had the van back yesterday Paramedic, A S found damp behind the wardrobe side panel, damp 12" up bathroom wall. They fitted new wardrobe side panel, replaced damp wall panel, replaced both fridge vent apertures again.
They think the water got in under the rear floor where it had not been sealed, and rain water was being thrown up from the rear offside wheel.

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Post by mikethebike on Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:17 am

Reading these posts as to poor or missing sealing. What was AS doing in production to stop this?

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Post by bikeralw on Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:30 pm

AS are not alone in seemingly ignoring reports of dodgy quality control. I own a Moto Guzzi motorbike, and despite hundreds of complaints from customers all over the world over several years, bikes are still leaving the factory with little or no grease in the steering head and swing arm/suspension bearings. These dry bearings just seem to last until the bikes are out of warranty..
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Post by Jaytee on Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:27 pm

mikethebike wrote:Reading these posts as to poor or missing sealing. What was AS doing in production to stop this?

Micky
If they would just get their politician like brains into gear and read this forum and act on it they would improve their product no end. There must be at least five pointers to rubbish workmanship in this thread alone  censored!

Sink drain pipes too short, too long, locker sealing missing, floor sealing missing behind road wheels, EHU/gas points not sealed properly etc, flipping heck sensored1. How much must this poor standard cost them in lengthy subsequent repairs and us in lost time and fuel. censored!.

Having said all that I still love ours to bits Whistle1

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