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Post by pablo on Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:05 pm

When I went to fill up there was no fuel cap! They are a right fiddle and maybe I didn't secure it properly and it got nicked (for reason see below). 

Anyway I bought an emergency one from a garage to tide me over and have now returned home. I'ld assumed there would be about 3 or 4 types that fitted every vehicle and a replacement would be easy. Ha! LOL! Talk about a nightmare there is 1000's of the b*gg**s!! Halfords stock one and that doesn't fit and a garage that sold a "universal fit" doesn't fit either.

Question is a) how long can I keep the "emergency" fuel cap on i.e. why can't it stay on permanently ( I Know that it is not secure being unlockable?)
                 b) anybody know where I can find a replacement?

Thank you.undecided
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Post by Bad Penny on Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:46 pm

Try Peugeot spares.
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Post by Cymro on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:13 pm

I'm sorry about that, Pablo, but I've read this on the day when I decided not to carry out my plan. You see, on my boxer Nuevo, the lockable fuel cap has to be unlocked with the ignition key. That's on a key-ring with a few others - the hab door key, the Thetford locker key; the skirt locker key etc. And so I find that it's very awkward to unlock the fuel cap. It's also awkward if I leave the key in the cap whilst refuelling, as the cap is restrained by a short tether, and so the whole lot just dangles.

So my plan was simply to take off the tether. After all, I always did the same thing with the Clubman, for 17 years, without mishap: unlock the cap with the ignition key; leave cap with key in it on the pump or nearby when refuelling; replace cap; lock cap and remove key. No danger of losing the cap becasue I couldn't drive away without the key.

However, when it actually came to removing the tether today, I thought better of it, and resisted the temptation. Sure I'll continue to curse the awkwardness of the arrangement, but as your story proves, better safe than sorry.

So thanks for, in effect, confirming that I was right not to detatch the cap. I do hope you'll soon get a replacement, perhaps from Peugeot or a breaker. Look on the bright side: you won't have to leave the ignition key in the cap whilst refuelling, only the new cap's key!

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Post by chudders on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:21 pm

I did and do find mine a little fiddly to unlock but have got used to it. I also did not want to let it dangle on the tether mainly because I did not want fuel over the ignition key if I overfilled or dripped from the nozzle.
I have found that the cap with keys attached will lift up and over the flap to the left and rest there with the keys still in and its out of the way. The tether is long enough to permit that. Try that on yours perhaps
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Post by Heanorboy on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:24 pm

re the replacement cap good advice already given

Re the temp cap the simple answer is until you are stopped or until the MOT is due as it is a failure as it does not seal

See the attached to explain

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Post by Cymro on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:32 pm

chudders wrote:I have found that the cap with keys attached will lift up and over the flap to the left and rest there with the keys still in and its out of the way. The tether is long enough to permit that. Try that on yours perhaps

Oh that's a good tip, Chudders! That'll keep it out of the way, and protect it against spills. Shall have a go tomorrow morning (if the rain ever stops!). Many thanks!

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Post by chudders on Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:09 am

Cymro wrote:
chudders wrote:I have found that the cap with keys attached will lift up and over the flap to the left and rest there with the keys still in and its out of the way. The tether is long enough to permit that. Try that on yours perhaps

Oh that's a good tip, Chudders! That'll keep it out of the way, and protect it against spills. Shall have a go tomorrow morning (if the rain ever stops!). Many thanks!

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OK , Let me know if it works on yours as well as it does on mine when you have tried
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Post by Cymro on Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:06 am

Just been outside in the mist, Dave / Chudders and, as you said, the tethered, lockable cap with keys still inserted can indeed hang on the outside of the opened filler orifice flap on the 2015 facelifted Boxer Nuevo.  Thanks again for that idea.

However, as seems generally agreed, it's still a fiddle to hold the cap still whilst inserting and turning the ignition key to unlock the cap. And on reflection, I don't think that removing the tether would make things much easier. It's the layout and design of the filler which is the problem: if the cap were vertical (parallel to the side of the van) - or at least more upright than it is -  it would be easy to remove the cap and stick in the nozzle. Used to be like that on a VW.

Anyway, there's nothing obvious that can be done to ameliorate things, so I'll live with it - and shall drape the cap with keys over the flap in future .... having struggled to remove it!

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Post by dbroada on Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:49 am

I have not filled mine up enough times to get REALLY annoyed with the filler cap but I am slightly annoyed. I shall re-read this thread and revise my filling methods.

But before leaving the subject, am I the only one to have got the filling nozzle stuck? And I mean STUCK! As usual it just pulled clear with no effort when somebody came to help but for me it was stuck. sensored1

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Post by peugeotboxer on Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:56 am

pablo wrote:When I went to fill up there was no fuel cap! They are a right fiddle and maybe I didn't secure it properly and it got nicked 

There was a thread many moons ago about MHs being stolen just after their fuel cap had been stolen.

Not wishing to worry you but once the thief had the fuel cap, a new key could be made which also fitted the doors and ignition.
I don't know if your model has the one key for all locks?

At the time, Peugeot only supplied replacement caps without the lock barrel. 
You could not buy just one barrel, you had to buy a 'vehicle set' which worked out very expensive.

Your Peugeot dealer should be able to advise.

(Hope you just 'lost' yours.)

PB

Found it: http://www.autosleeper-ownersforum.com/t549-fuel-caps?highlight=fuel+cap
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Post by pablo on Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:30 am

peugeotboxer wrote:
pablo wrote:When I went to fill up there was no fuel cap! They are a right fiddle and maybe I didn't secure it properly and it got nicked 


At the time, Peugeot only supplied replacement caps without the lock barrel. 
You could not buy just one barrel, you had to buy a 'vehicle set' which worked out very expensive.

Your Peugeot dealer should be able to advise.

Thanks for this. Nothing on line to help no one has a generic part at best it is try a breakers yard. Contacted local Peugeot dealer who confirmed what you said you have to buy a "locking set" to replace ignition etc at a cost of £404.29!!!!!  Exc labour fitting charge!!!!

Will start phoning round breakers yards!

Moral is don't lose the lockable fuel cap!!unwell
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Post by Cymro on Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:50 am

pablo wrote:local Peugeot dealer who confirmed what you said you have to buy a "locking set" to replace ignition etc at a cost of £404.29!!!!!  Exc labour fitting charge!!!!

Strewth! Shall definitely not detach the tether! Hope you get it sorted.

Had wondered whether to get a spare key cut for the filler cap: I assume that the cap doesn't have any form of electronic transponder but is merely mechanical - so I wonder if it's possible to get a spare cut, copying the pattern of the metal part of the ignition key? In my case, that would make life easier, because instead of trying to unlock the cap with a folding ignition key on a set of keys on a carribiner, all I'd need is the one rigid key. I wonder?
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Post by Greyhound on Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:29 pm

Have you tried FleaBay? There's load of Valeo caps that fit the Boxer for around 20 quid.
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Post by pablo on Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:19 pm

That sounds good thank you. Noggin. Only thing is if there is loads of Valero caps how do I know which one will fit my van?
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Post by Greyhound on Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:30 am

Just check the years in the ebay search filter. Maybe contact the seller just to be on the safe side and ask if you can return if it doesn't fit.

You'll end up with another key on your keyfob, but better than the cost for an official Peugeot one.
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