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Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by NORGIL on Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:30 am

Hi all.
Has anyone fitted one of these to a monocoque ? (Clubman) Mainly want something that locks from both inside and outside.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Milenco-2015-Caravan-Motorhome-Security-Door-Lock-Locks-from-inside-and-outside-/181963555336?hash=item2a5ddf8208:g:eYIAAOSwv0tU-cEy

Any advice appreciated.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by Paulmold on Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:41 am

I've just got the external locking one, haven't the guts to drill through the wall.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by NORGIL on Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:57 pm

Paul, me neither unless someone assures me they have done it and it fits ok, thus the question.  I'm a complete coward when it comes to making holes in the shell.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by Bcfe on Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:29 pm

Have been considering the Milenco one but put off for same reason. Is it possible to fit the Fiamma one easily or can anyone recommend a lock that is easily fitted onto Amethyst please?
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A little extra security

Post by NORGIL on Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:12 pm




I decided against drilling through the bodywork but still wanted something better than the standard hab door lock which can be opened by virtually any double sided key, so I simply bolted a window lock on the inside of the door. There are large washers on the back of the bolts to prevent pull through. A very easy and cheap job to do. It offers easy to open extra security at night as well as providing an extra layer of security when leaving the van. Yes, I have to exit the van via one of the cab doors but I don't find that a problem.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by Greyhound on Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:33 pm

I used the Fiamma version on my previous Nuevo:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fiamma-04688A01-Safe-Door-Frame/dp/B0013T2IZC/

Cheaper and screws into the frame.

Worked really well and secure enough to protect the habitation door.  As said on other posts, the windows are the real weak point so these just offer a nice extra level of security to the door, but no need to go overboard.
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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by Bcfe on Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:28 pm

Thanks Norgil that looks like a great option - and is the exact same fabric etc as our Amethyst
Not sure the Fiamma lock will fit the Amethyst thanks Greyhound


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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by RML on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:53 pm

We're on our third van and spend time both here and abroad and never felt the need for one. Each to their own. 
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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by NORGIL on Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:54 pm

If AS had fitted anything other than the cheapest available lock that can be opened with such ease I wouldn't bother either, but since the area around Norgil Towers is populated by a proliferation of Oiks,Louts,Cutpurses, Highwaypeople (used to be highwaymen but one must move with the times), Yobs and those inclined to thievery, for the sake of less than a fiver and 15minutes work I thought it worth it for the peace of mind if nothing else.

p.s   Rich, where do you park your van because there's sure to be some stuff in it I would like and my key is bound to open your van if one of my local Oiks is passing.. hugegrins

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by RML on Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:09 pm

NORGIL wrote:If AS had fitted anything other than the cheapest available lock that can be opened with such ease I wouldn't bother either, but since the area around Norgil Towers is populated by a proliferation of Oiks,Louts,Cutpurses, Highwaypeople (used to be highwaymen but one must move with the times), Yobs and those inclined to thievery, for the sake of less than a fiver and 15minutes work I thought it worth it for the peace of mind if nothing else.

p.s   Rich, where do you park your van because there's sure to be some stuff in it I would like and my key is bound to open your van if one of my local Oiks is passing.. hugegrins

..... luckily my van is parked somewhere in Somerset...
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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by NORGIL on Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:29 am

Rich you are safe then my Oiks wouldn't venture into Somerset, cider does terrible things to them.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by HairyFool on Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:07 pm

As has been said the riffraff will get in if they really want. In fact one crime prevention officer suggested doing much more than required for insurance is counterproductive. The harder it is the more likely in the criminals eyes there is something worth having so will try harder and the greater the damage done.

With the Amethysts anti burst lock the key is the weak point. I'm looking for something reasonably elegant to cover the keyhole. I have seen a padlock and hasp but I don't think that fits the description.

Only really worried when we are out, the last two crime reports from the local Police were for zero reported incidents up!

Can't find any of the window latches with the locking button as several of mine don't work.
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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by Gromit on Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:28 pm

HairyFool wrote:The harder it is the more likely in the criminals eyes there is something worth having so will try harder and the greater the damage done.
Hi Hairy

I'm not sure about that - but it's always going to be uncertain when we try to second guess the crims! I would think that obvious security measures would be more likely to send the villain on to have a go at your neighbour's van, which might look a bit quicker and easier to enter?

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Can't find any of the window latches with the locking button as several of mine don't work.
They are not much of a deterrent when they do work, being part of a flimsy plastic latch!!

There are locking devices available for effectively dead locking the catches. Gird your loins if you watch the video however, as Andy Harris will drive you bonkers!!  

I'm not convinced, but you may want to look into it further.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by Paulmold on Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:39 pm

For those with Morris Marinalocks on hab door ,this is a simple security item. Fit on inside and exit by cab door

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152671230057

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by Bcfe on Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:50 pm

All done - thanks Norgil
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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by NORGIL on Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:51 pm

You are welcome Bcfe, if I can assist with anything drop me a line I am only 20mins away down the M42.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by roli on Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:15 pm

For future ref the Sleep Secure one Paul suggests is in my opinion the one to go for.  We used one for around 8 years on the Executive it is so simple and doesn't cost the earth

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by NORGIL on Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:46 pm

The Sleep C Cure  is actually quite hard to find, although they do crop up used on ebay from time to time. The company website has been offline for some time and their phone line appears to be dead.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by Paulmold on Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:57 pm

I've got the sleep c cure version for later models, so simple. The ones that come on eBay are always from the same seller. I reckon he must have bought all remaining stock.

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Re: Fitting security lock on hab door

Post by shipbadger on Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:46 am

As much of the concern seems to be about the insecurity of the locking barrel has anyone looked at changing this item.  When I had a Morris Minor (which also suffer from any FS series key will do) I changed the barrel for the Hykee type.  This is a tubular key rather than a flat one.  The company still seem to be about but I only have time for a quick search this morning and Google threw up lots of references to such locks for newer Transits via autolocksmiths rather than the manufacturer.  May be worth investigating.

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