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Post by Libraryman2 on Sat May 14, 2016 12:40 pm

confused3 Having chosen to purchase the new Broadway, i did not look to carefully at the Bourton! They very close in design.
Anyone undstand why there's such a price difference?

It must be down to the Mercedes chassis and cab I guess since the habitation side looks identical?
Is it a fact that the extra purchase cost buys you additional quality?

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Post by dbroada on Sat May 14, 2016 3:12 pm

Probably. There is a similar difference between the Nuevo (Pug based) and Stanton (Merc based).

We have ordered a Nuevo (actually a FIAT as I wanted auto) and considered the Stanton but there were just a couple of things that we didn't feel justified the greater purchase price. The habitation areas are virtually identical.

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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Sat May 14, 2016 4:05 pm

A quick google gives Sprinter chassis cab LWB price £27800 + VAT, Boxer chassis cab (130 engine) £20400 + VAT. This ties in with the price difference at AS.

Personally I love my MB Auto (5 speed) and the 7 speed is even better. A real auto (at more cost though).

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Post by Liam on Sat May 14, 2016 6:18 pm

PLOUGHLIN wrote:A real auto (at more cost though).
But worth it!
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Post by Pete Taylor on Sat May 14, 2016 6:27 pm

Liam wrote:
PLOUGHLIN wrote:A real auto (at more cost though).
But worth it!
Liam
Absolutely agree!

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Post by groundhog on Sat May 14, 2016 7:08 pm

And again, the Merc is so smooth the gear change is almost imperceptible and mine is not the latest 7 speed version which must be even better! Worth the extra in my view as the real cost is the depreciation not the initial outlay so you may even be saving money in the long run!
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Post by willy eckerslike on Sat May 14, 2016 9:37 pm

A Devon is the same as a Nuevo except for being on the Merc  chassis. Worth every extra penny for the auto box and the manoeuverability. smile!

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Post by Jaytee on Sat May 14, 2016 9:52 pm

Have to agree. Just love driving my Merc drinksallround

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Post by dbroada on Sat May 14, 2016 10:52 pm

Hey libraryman2, I think everybody is telling us we bought the wrong van.

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Post by steamdrivenandy on Sun May 15, 2016 6:34 am

There are some potential downsides though, apart from the price differential. Presumably if you buy a Nuevo you want a short van and the Stanton is 9ins longer for no additional gain in habitation space. The Stanton doesn't appear to be available in 4/4 guise, maybe partly because the standard van has such a low Payload and paying out for the upgrade of MTPLM adds even more to the price differential. In these respects the Broadway/Broughton is probably a closer comparison, though not 'short vans
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Sun May 15, 2016 6:34 am

There are some potential downsides though, apart from the price differential. Presumably if you buy a Nuevo you want a short van and the Stanton is 9ins longer for no additional gain in habitation space. The Stanton doesn't appear to be available in 4/4 guise, maybe partly because the standard van has such a low Payload and paying out for the upgrade of MTPLM adds even more to the price differential. In these respects the Broadway/Broughton is probably a closer comparison, though not 'short' vans.
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Post by Libraryman2 on Sun May 15, 2016 8:20 am

Yes that's the conclusion I'm coming too, perhaps I shouldn't have asked Dave!
Still, I've got 5 grand in my back pocket, think I'll go for a pint or two and count it again:snigger:

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Post by dbroada on Sun May 15, 2016 10:38 am

Ray, at least the 5 people saying the wrong van has been bought are aiming at me having bout the auto. They haven't been that rude about you. hugegrins

As an aside the Stanton would have suited me as much as the Nuevo but I didn't like the idea of no spare wheel.

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Post by Libraryman2 on Sun May 15, 2016 10:58 am

Yes Dave this vs that threads tend to stir a little (hopefully) jovial passion.
Having looked a little closer, I didn't realise that the Mercedes extra cost brings you good benifits like rear wheel drive, good auto boxes and pokeir motors, downside of course, extra weight mitigated by lower tank capacities.
I'm happy with my choice :)

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Post by dbroada on Sun May 15, 2016 11:08 am

up! 

That's the main thing. I'm happy with my choice too.

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Post by Pete Taylor on Sun May 15, 2016 1:29 pm

steamdrivenandy wrote:There are some potential downsides though, apart from the price differential. Presumably if you buy a Nuevo you want a short van and the Stanton is 9ins longer for no additional gain in habitation space. The Stanton doesn't appear to be available in 4/4 guise, maybe partly because the standard van has such a low Payload and paying out for the upgrade of MTPLM adds even more to the price differential. In these respects the Broadway/Broughton is probably a closer comparison, though not 'short vans
As far as I can see A-S do not offer the Nuevo as a 4x4 either, if they did, the prop-shaft and rear axle would preclude fitting a spare wheel underneath and probably compromise tank space too; also the 4x4 Sevel vans I have seen are way higher than the fwds (bordering on Monster-Truck appearance)!

All sizes of Sprinter are available as 4x4, in the case of the SWB I can't see a reason why a Stanton could not be built on a 4x4 base- all the rear-drive components are already there, there would not need to make any under-body changes. The excellent turning circle would be compromised by the front-drive axle and the payload would be reduced by about 165kg, the floor height only seems to be about 50mm higher with 4x4 than rwd.

I wonder if anyone has ordered a Stanton without the re-plate to 3500kg? The off-the-peg payload is quoted as 351kg, plus an extra 300kg with re-plate, compared with 476kg for an off-the-peg Nuevo (presumably this could also be re-plated too?).

You pays your money and takes your choice- I suppose one chooses to either drive around in a fwd plumber's van or a rwd courier's van. quick_run

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Post by Claytaa on Sun May 15, 2016 1:35 pm

Drove both the Broadway and the Bourton before shelling out all that extra dosh, chalk and cheese comes to mind.
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Post by groundhog on Sun May 15, 2016 2:07 pm

I would never suggest you made the wrong choice, but I think your original question was answered.

If I had to buy another van today my ideal choice would not be the same A/S I have now, the snag is that choice costs getting on for twice as much.....ironically it is on a Fiat chassis and no Merc available!!

You will I am sure love your new van so enjoy.... allthumbz
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Post by Libraryman2 on Sun May 15, 2016 2:21 pm

Yes I agree, my question has been answered, you clearly get more for the extra dosh, however as stated, comprises have to be made.
So all in all the real benifits are that choices are available and A/S appear to have it right!

Thanks for your comments

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Post by steamdrivenandy on Sun May 15, 2016 4:16 pm

A bit of misinterpretation here.

4/4 not 4X4.

4 seats/4 berths not Four Wheel Drive.
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