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Post by Cymro on Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:33 pm

Use a compromise? That's far too sensible!

I'll give the vehcile a nice run tomorrow - the Gower, perhaps - and I've set the tyre pressures to the compromise which I want (as per Coninenta know if the warning system is prepared to compromise and learn what I want!
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Post by Gromit on Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:16 pm

Paulmold wrote:I didn't know the system was now obligatory either
I didn't know I had the system, but it sounds like I must have.

Too much control. Too many decisions forced upon us by someone who thinks they know best, and wants to protect us from ourselves!!!

If mine plays up I shall speak to our friendly Peugeot dealer and see if he can neutralise it with an ECU modification. It seems most things are controlled from there.

It's getting to the stage where a warning light will tell you when you need to stop for a pee!! shrugg

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Post by Fredcool on Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:20 pm

Hi all , on the subject of warning lights etc. , I've just completed my first 1000 Miles in the Nuevo EK and for 90 % of the time it's been displaying a "shift" sign which according to the handbook means I should change up a gear. This happens even when in 6th gear , doing 65-70 mph. Is it just me ?
I daren't lower the tyre pressures now in case I trigger the alarm .
All good stuff.
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Post by Gromit on Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:07 pm

Not just you Fred.

Our Nuevo also thinks it has seven gears, and nags at me to change up from sixth.

I think this can be corrected by an ECU fix, but haven't had a chance to take it in to our local Peugeot dealer yet.

Too bloody clever by half. Machines really are beginning to rule the world!!

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Post by -mojo- on Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:18 pm

I know much of the protest is probably tongue-in-cheek, but I value automatic tyre pressure monitoring enough that I modified my van's wiring to add "Factory" TPMS to it (mine was built before the feature became mandatory, but the function is built into the ABS controller anyway).

Most of the cost was in getting the TPMS reset switch to go in the dash, at around £20. If it only stops me running a tyre flat enough to damage it beyond repair once it will have paid for itself immediately.

For those people that check their tyre pressures regularly it's not going to be intrusive anyway - all the indirect systems have relatively low sensitivity to prevent false alarms. Mine, for example, only sounds an alarm if a tyre falls 5PSI or more from the set pressure.

It's true that you do have to take the time to understand how to set the system initially or when tyre pressures are changed, but that is ~usually~ explained adequately in the base vehicle Owner's Manual. If there is blame to be laid anywhere I would say it is with the supplying dealer, because they should explain the system as part of the vehicle handover - but it seems few actually do.

If I were to pick on some things to have a technophobe moan about then it would be the feature that means that the indicators flash three times if I just tap the stalk, or the one that causes the electric windows to roll down if I hold the "unlock" button in on the remote. TPMS does not seem to fit into the same category as these "features" do...
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Post by Askit on Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:23 pm

I've get the "find seventh gear" message as well, the handbook says this can't be over-ridden confused3

On the TPMS issue, I eventually got a response from customer services at Peugeot, I quote

In regard to your question I can confirm the tyre pressure sensors work by monitoring the air pressure inside the tyre, this then reports the information to the vehicles ECU and if it goes lower that the pre-set data the tyre pressure light will activate.

As you have a motorhome and it is recommended by the motorhome manufacturer to have lower tyre pressure, this can be reset by the Peugeot dealer so that the tyre pressure monitor light does not activate, if this has not already been set by the motorhome manufacturer at time of build.  

In my question to them it was the information from Continental I referred to, not A/S. I think this confirms that a reprogramming of the ECU is required if  anyone wants lower tyre pressures. Pity they didn't get back to me prior to me getting the faulty sensors replaced and the ECU programmed. Sounds like more money heading towards the money pit scratch head

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Post by Gromit on Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:20 pm

-mojo- wrote:If I were to pick on some things to have a technophobe moan about then it would be the feature that means that the indicators flash three times if I just tap the stalk, or the one that causes the electric windows to roll down if I hold the "unlock" button in on the remote. TPMS does not seem to fit into the same category as these "features" do...
Can't argue with that Mojo, except that my indicators flash five times!! You then try to switch them off for fear of confusing other motorists and the other side starts flashing!

  censored! things!!!! If I want to signal I'm quite capable of flicking the stalk across - and back again when it has given enough flashes!

As for the electric windows, what about when the anti trap sensor is too sensitive and you can't close the bloody things. They shoot to the top, and immediately back down again.

You've got me going now. The really annoying thing to we skinflints is having to pay extra for loads of toys bells and whistles that we don't want!! Like memory seats that auto adjust to suit different drivers!! I haven't got those fortunately, but do I feel deprived??

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Post by merv on Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:26 pm

Just to return to the earlier question about uprating. My 2013 Nuevo's gross weight ( apologies for not using the technical term but you know what I mean) is 3300kgs.. as standard for the Nuevo EK.  Do I take it from what members are saying that one can have an uprating to 3500kgs (at a cost) without any alteration to suspension or tyres?
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Post by Gromit on Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:39 pm

merv wrote:Just to return to the earlier question about uprating. My 2013 Nuevo's gross weight ( apologies for not using the technical term but you know what I mean) is 3300kgs.. as standard for the Nuevo EK.  Do I take it from what members are saying that one can have an uprating to 3500kgs (at a cost) without any alteration to suspension or tyres?
Yep.

Exactly that Merv, and I have just done so.

"At a cost" is an understatement - it's £260 + VAT from Sv Tech (£312 altogether). It seems like money for old rope, but to be fair I don't know what's involved in the processing. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

You get a sticker to show the new rating, and a letter to send off to the DVLA with the front page of your log book. They then send you a new one with the uprated (3500 kg) figure instead of the original 3300kg.

I went on the weighbridge with the van loaded for a holiday and was a bit shocked to find how close to the limit it was, and I had forgotten to put the bikes on the back. An expensive exercise, but we have seen motorhomes pulled in for weighing several times, so for peace of mind it seemed worth it.

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Post by merv on Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:51 pm

Thank you Gromit. I hadn't realised it was as straightforwards as that. A naive question, but why does AS rate it as 3300kgs if the chassis is ok for 3500kgs?
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Post by PennyandDerek on Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:00 pm

Merv,
It's one of the 'benefits' of having a later model.. hugegrins 
You can also have the 'benefit' of a skylight instead of a capacious locker.. hugegrins
You can also get better streamlining from the missing skirt 'wet' locker.. hugegrins
Self-flashing indicators, permanently 'on' tyre warning lights..........................

We're not the only ones who think that motohome design is going backwards at a rate of knots.
"Upgrading" to us, means something significantly better; not something newer. We've actually given up looking, it's been yonks since we went to a show.

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Post by merv on Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:06 pm

Yes, Derek, I agree with most of that... except for the front skylight which we love. Had quite a few vans since 1996 and this does tick most boxes!.... Quite fancying an auto Merc but cannot possible afford (or want to afford) the premium you have to pay for that chassis!
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Post by Gromit on Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:30 pm

merv wrote:Thank you Gromit. I hadn't realised it was as straightforwards as that. A naive question, but why does AS rate it as 3300kgs if the chassis is ok for 3500kgs?

Pass.

Next question please!

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Post by inspiredron on Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:37 am

They will do 3500kg if you ask before vsn is built. For me it was no cost as it was specified when I ordered mine.

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Post by bikeralw on Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:09 pm

My log book has no mention of weights. The original PUG vin plate states 3000kg, alongside is an AS sticker with the upgraded weight of 3300kg. What's to stop me peeling that sticker off and having one made up with 3500k printed on it?
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Post by merv on Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:46 pm

I took the van to a public weighbridge today..2013 Nuevo EK max, MTPLM 3300kgs.

Myself only, fuel full, 50% water (hot water full), gas 75% full, two folding bikes, oil filled radiators, some bedding, some clothes, and the usual other camping stuff... silver screens, cables, hoses, chairs, drying rack etc.
 
Total weight was 3120kgs. Axle weights were..1365kgs front (MTPLM 1750) and 1755kgs (MTPLM 1900.)

To add for a normal trip: passenger(!), remaining clothes, some food, some bedding, books(!).  We are not particularly 'kitchen sink' campers! After these have been added,  I think we have roughly 70 to 80 kgs to spare.
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Post by merv on Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:48 pm

I took the van to a public weighbridge today..2013 Nuevo EK max, MTPLM 3300kgs.

Myself only, fuel full, 50% water (hot water full), gas 75% full, two folding bikes, oil filled radiators, some bedding, some clothes, and the usual other camping stuff... silver screens, cables, hoses, chairs, drying rack etc.
 
Total weight was 3120kgs. Axle weights were..1365kgs front (MTPLM 1750) and 1755kgs (MTPLM 1900.)

To add for a normal trip: passenger(!), remaining clothes, some food, some bedding, books(!).  We are not particularly 'kitchen sink' campers! After these have been added,  I think we have roughly 70 to 80 kgs to spare.


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