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Post by Barry Preedy on Fri May 01, 2015 5:43 pm

We have just tried to operate our TV but all we get is a message 'No Signal'. The TV works OK at home so that is not the problem. We did use a TV in the motorhome, but that was 6 months ago. Has anybody experienced this problem?
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Post by cyclo on Fri May 01, 2015 5:55 pm

Have you done a programme search? If you are in a different area to when the TV was last used you will
need to go into the menu and select channel search.
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Post by Barry Preedy on Fri May 01, 2015 8:10 pm

Thanks David
Yes I tried a programme search; it went through the search routine and then said no signal.
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Post by -mojo- on Fri May 01, 2015 9:24 pm

Do you have a signal amplifier on the feed from the aerial, and is getting 12V power?
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Post by inspiredron on Fri May 01, 2015 10:39 pm

check that signal amplifief (iin wardrobe? ) is switched on. I have been caught by thst!

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Post by raymondo on Sat May 02, 2015 12:48 am

do you have a "flying saucer" aerial?
those things are virtually useless I have had times when I could see the transmitter but couldnt get a signal!

If you have power to the amp and the amp is turned on, have you tried  adjusting the gain from the amp (too much gain is as bad as too little) all that tried AND you aresure that you have done a programe search  it might be a case of "change location and try again".
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Post by roli on Sat May 02, 2015 6:30 am

If you have noted all the previous posts, and do bear in mind the omnidirectionals (fixed) are next to useless as raymondo points out the next step is finding where the nearest transmitter is and seeing if there are any obvious obstructions to your signal.

If you have onboard internet or use an Android based phone download "UK Aerial Alignment" app if your aerial is directional change it to the direction indicated, if fixed just go and see if you can see any signal obstructions


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Post by Barry Preedy on Sat May 02, 2015 7:49 am

Thanks everybody for the advice - I will try again today.
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Post by BobK on Sat May 02, 2015 9:57 am

As others have posted, omn-idirectionals can be worse than useless.    I had one on my last van and it never worked anywhere, and then I tore it off on a low bridge and it didn't work even better   hugegrins.

Try an independent aerial of some sort, wired directly into the TV.   That solved my problem.

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Post by Paulmold on Sat May 02, 2015 10:04 am

I hate to disagree but I found the Omni absolutely fine once the digital switchover was complete (it was useless during the change due to lower power outputs from transmitters) and transmitters went back to full power.
We don't know yet what type of aerial Barry has on his roof but somehow I doubt if he has an Omni on a 2010 model.
As regards the app UK Aerial Alignment, I have on many occasions found that the strongest signal on that is by no means best. If on a site, look around the other vans and follow them, if any houses around, look and see where their aerials point.
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Post by CC on Sat May 02, 2015 11:31 am

Our Broadway is fitted with a Wing Teleco Omnidirectional aerial & seems to work just fine even with the Broadways high roof sides, the only thing I've encountered is interference from mobile signals so have now fitted an LTE 4G filter before the amp in the wardrobe. We find with our Avtex TV because it's omnidirectional it will often find two transmitters in different areas and I just select whichever gives the best reception, also if it's the Teleco setup like ours ensure your booster gain is fully on as it may be turned down.

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Post by Paulmold on Sat May 02, 2015 12:29 pm

Paulmold wrote:
We don't know yet what type of aerial Barry has on his roof but somehow I doubt if he has an Omni on a 2010 model.

Looks like I'm wrong and Omni-directional were fitted in 2010 looking at CC's post. I didn't know they were made any more.
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Post by burlingtonboaby on Sat May 02, 2015 12:46 pm

Paul I think A/S must have ordered a container load of them, I have one on my 08 Sigma.
Decided against a Status 560 upgrade as our last Status 530 on our Nuevo didn't really perform well after a few years.
I use a Avtex STH 3000 aerial mounted on a pole attached to the bike rack, looks abit naff, however picks most channels without interference for mobiles.
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Post by Paulmold on Sat May 02, 2015 12:48 pm

going slightly off topic, whats the point of the extending radio aerial arms on the Status 530, no-one could reach them to extend them if they wanted to.

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Post by steve00136 on Sat May 02, 2015 1:02 pm

The teleco omni on our Lancashire works fine but still carry a fold up portable satellite dish for when we cannot get a signal which we rarely use. Might get that LTE 4G filter as per Cruising Comet above - as we do get mobile signal interference

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Post by raymondo on Sat May 02, 2015 9:52 pm

I started out with a "flying saucer" and in truth most of the time if  was relatively near civilization it worked, but there were times when I noticed others around me had a signal whilst I had nothing.  The final straw came one year at the C&CC site in Rosemarkie, no signal  other people had a signal and when I enquired at the office I was told to point the aerial at the tower on the hill as that was the transmitter - obviously I couldnt point a flying saucer!

Utilising the bike rack, I soon jerry rigged a alumunium mast and a small "log periodic" aerial (both sourced from CPC) and consistant got a good signal just about every where (if I had an amp Im sure that "just about" would have become just "everywhere").  Eventually she who must be obeyed complained about the Heath -Robinson set up and I had a Status 560 installed and never looked back.
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Post by Barry Preedy on Sun May 03, 2015 9:51 am

Thanks everybody
The aerial is a Teleco 'flying saucer' type. Sorry for my ignorance. but is that an 'omni'? Still no luck with a signal, but when it stops raining I will take the Nuevo to a spot with a good signal strength and hope it works.
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Post by CC on Sun May 03, 2015 10:44 am

Barry despite what others say the Teleco is a good setup (the status omnidirectional is not as efficient) you'll have the Teleco wing omni like on our Broadway here [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

What TV are you using it with? Also have you checked the gain is fully turned up on the booster in the wardrobe? Used ours at a number of locations and it's worked fine everywhere we've been to date. 

I had it in mind to upgrade to a directional when we first got the Broadway but after using the Teleco setup I've since dismissed this as no need as the Teleco performs equally as well as the status directional we had on our previous Nuevo. If we do change it'll be for a satellite dish in the future.

The convenience of not having to push up and manually find a signal as well ensure you remember to retract the aerial when moving on is also a big advantage I find.

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Post by Barry Preedy on Sun May 03, 2015 1:27 pm

Hi CC
Thanks for the link; I am using a Vision Plus TV.

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Post by Barry Preedy on Mon May 04, 2015 2:27 pm

It was my location that caused the problem. I tried the TV in the motorhome at a different location where there was a better signal and it worked fine. Thanks everybody.
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Post by Peter Brown on Mon May 04, 2015 5:26 pm

Paulmold wrote:going slightly off topic, whats the point of the extending radio aerial arms on the Status 530, no-one could reach them to extend them if they wanted to.

The dimensions of the base aerial are for use with the UHF frequency band.  When the aerials were designed there were still several European countries that transmitted TV on the VHF band.  The pull outs adjust the dimensions of the receiver element of the aerial to those suitable for VHF.  They are totally unnecessary now even if you can get to them.

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Post by deka on Fri May 15, 2015 6:01 pm

I have a Teleco fitted on my Sigma using a Avtex tv and I called into Salop Caravans today to find out why my signal is hit and miss, To my surprise the first thing he asked me was what colour writing was on the aerial. I told him black on the booster and blue on the saucer. What he told me was that black or blue writing was the old analogue aerial and the ones with red writing are digital. The conclusion was "change the aerial". Surely on a modern 09 motorhome it should have been fitted with a digital, Has anyone else heard of this or are I the only one ???
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Post by oldfred on Fri May 15, 2015 9:28 pm

I'm slightly surprised at this but I'm not an expert. I would have thought there is no difference in aerials, analog or digital although some local frequencies have changed.

I assume portable aerials cover the whole frequency band.

It may be that a booster for digital has improved signal to noise spec but I still can't understand why one type wouldn't work for both.
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Post by deka on Fri May 15, 2015 9:51 pm

I'm hopping Roger or Peter can help on this one
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Post by PLOUGHLIN on Fri May 15, 2015 11:28 pm

The current Telco is blue, and supports UHF and VHF signals. See page 30.
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The Status is red.

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