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Towing with an Amethyst? or similar.

Post by m8form8 on Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:49 am

confused3 I have seen the odd tow bar fitted and wonder if it is worth it. I would mainly consider towing a sailing dinghy with mine, but as the back wheels are a long way in on these wonder if with a tow bar the result is a lot of swaying with what ever is towed and a hefty stabilizer required?  confused3 Anyone got any experience of towing with one?
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Re: Towing with an Amethyst? or similar.

Post by roli on Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:23 am

Have you any idea of the nose weight of the boat trailer when loaded ? 

If not and you dont have access to a nose weight scale get some bathroom scales under the hitch and a piece of wood under hitch to the scales.

I know you have an extended body and this will affect things but by sheer fluke I have the 96 Transit handbook on my desk at the moment and the normal Transits maximum nose weight is 80kg so your maximum will be less than this due to extended overhang.

Weight wise depends on boat size obviously, there shouldnt be a problem so long as you dont exceed the vans max weight (80% better) but again the long overhang needs to be considered

That said I have seen Amethyst and legends towing

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Re: Towing with an Amethyst? or similar.

Post by NigelS on Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:45 pm

Hi,

I have regularly towed my Scorpion with my Talisman GL - pretty much the same monocoque body as your amethyst. Mine is on a Talbot Express chassis, but the rear wheels are also quite well forwards of the tow-bar, like your Amethyst. With dinghies of this size & weight (the Scorp is 100kg hull plus weight of trailer, sails, mast etc, so probably no more than 400kg all up) it is no problem at all. I tow with around 50kg max nose weight and there is no swaying or instability at all, so I don't feel you will have any problems. Mostly, you don't really know the boat is on the back, apart from using the gearbox a bit more on inclines.
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Re: Towing with an Amethyst? or similar.

Post by m8form8 on Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:09 pm

Thanks for those answers, the dinghy i have is an old 14 foot grp one we sail on occasion, it is actually on an old caravan chassis cut down and nose weight is about 50kg, it balances quite well but id guess its a bit of a solid trailer combination. I have towed it about with my kia sportage on occasion and it tows nicely behind that , forgot it was on there on occasion. 
Next issue is cost of the tow bar, best quote i have had is £500 so far.. Seems it needs a specialist bar made because of extended chassis, so I am guessing second hand ones are not available.
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Amethyst Tow Car Air cushion and tap drip

Post by hijet on Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:33 am

Nose weight is an issue but you can get fairly lightweight 4 wheel trailers with little nose weight.

In 2013 I had watling fit a type approved towbar / electrics to my Amethyst suitable for use with towbar2towcar kit and i tow a peugeot 107 (£20 per year road fund) with no issues what so ever - its also our everyday run around car and while on 'holiday' opens up a whole new raft of possibilties getting into those little villages and towns. While at Watling i had dunlop air cushions fitted this gives a much firmer ride, example; We wilded at kerbside right by the sea in blackpool in a galeswept late November and after watching Eastenders and a meal slept like lambs (apart from the odd hooter from envious locals). Ours being the 2004 automatic 'drive by button' option (which i prefer) towing the car is a breeze, the Amethyst pulls like a train and to be honest only comes into its own when well loaded - being built on the well proven Ford commercial base vehicle on which i fitted conti vanco campers (read the reviews) same year. Takes 2 minutes to hitch and all i do is - lift up the car ariel and tie on a bit of ribbon - height aligned with the rear view mirror - no need for all those cameras (my opinion) - the hitch is locked on the tow ball and the car doors are locked with the spare key ! partner looks out of the rear window now and then (when stationery of course) or if the ribbon disapears ......  
This outfit is up for sale as i want to down size
Just a thought r.e. dripping taps - for the piller version with the swivel head you will find a grub screw in the swivel part - carefully undo (de-prresurise and block the plughole first) dismantle the tap carefuly (they are not as robust as domestic taps and you dont want to scratch them !!)  and replace the ceramic washer and put back together ! drinksallround
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Re: Towing with an Amethyst? or similar.

Post by m8form8 on Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:52 pm

Thanks for that info!  content
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