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Post by Justin Case on Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:09 pm

I have a 1999 AutoSleeper Symbol, on the Peugeot Boxer base. My waste water tap has finally fallen to pieces due to plastic brittleness. The tap is on the end of a flexible plastic hose, and clipped to the underside of the offside van skirt. The tap is a Waddington & Duval Aeroflow.
My problem is that the tap has a 1" diameter screw thread which is screwed/pushed into the end of the hose, and secured with a Jubilee clip, and I cannot scource a replacement. There are many 'water butt' taps available, but they only have a 3/4" screw thread.
Can anyone assist?
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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by Paulmold on Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:29 pm

I replaced my Symphony waste tap with one of these, just had to cut off the 'swollen' end and it fitted perfectly and was so much easier to drain, doesn't get clogged up and can be taken apart if needed ....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRAIN-TAP-WASTE-OR-FRESH-WATER-1-2-TAP-RELEASE-VALVE-FOR-20MM-PIPE-ON-MOTORHOME-/281435184963?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item4186d81f43

I know it says it is a 1/2 inch but it worked great on my Symphony.

similar type with 1" ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRAIN-TAP-WASTE-OR-FRESH-WATER-1-TAP-RELEASE-VALVE-FOR-30MM-PIPE-ON-MOTORHOME-/281339357834?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item418121ea8a

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Post by Justin Case on Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:49 pm

Many thanks for that reply.

I was just a bit reluctant to shorten the hose, but if there is sufficient length, it is one solution.
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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by rogerblack on Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:07 pm

I have had the same brittle problem on my 2002 Pollensa waste and fresh water drain taps over the past couple of years and obtained replacements by phoning A-S spares department. 

I can't recall the exact cost but can remember being surprised that it was quite reasonable, and the replacements were received on the next working day each time.
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Post by daisy mae on Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:28 pm

I used exactly the same for the fresh water tank , I got mine from Screwfix, much cheaper.
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Post by Justin Case on Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:04 pm

Thanks for the replies.

As suggested, I contacted AutoSleeper Parts Department direct.
The lady on the line knew exactly the item I wanted, I ordered it, and it was delivered the following day.

Well done AutoSleeper.
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Post by Stuart.burton5 on Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:03 pm

I just bought a 1998 boxer Symphony .I was trying to fill the water tank but the water was just running out the bottom of the van is the a valve underneath the van .cheers
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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by Paulmold on Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:12 pm

There is a drain tap actually on the side of the tank. You have to get on your knees and look from the driver's side. It looks like a barrel tap. It could be open or it could be broken off.

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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by groundhog on Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:36 pm

Stuart, You don't have a frost protection automatic dump valve on the boiler do you in which case the water would just run out if it is open, you would need to reset it..... just a thought as I made the same mistake once!
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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by Paulmold on Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:58 pm

That's quite possible if 1998 models had Truma boilers instead of Carvers .

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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by -mojo- on Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:09 pm

Don't know if there was a period of parallel fitting of both, but my '99 Flair had a Carver Cascade Rapide.
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Post by Paulmold on Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:14 am

Just checked out a 99 and a 2000 Symbol on eBay and can see Carver vents on outsides.

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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by art on Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:18 am

I replaced mine with a motorised ball valve , some time ago , and still working fine.
See thread      http://www.autosleeper-ownersforum.com/t9712-waste-water-tap
The original autosleepers arrangement is crude to say the least
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Post by Bulletguy on Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:37 pm

art wrote:The original autosleepers arrangement is crude to say the least

I agree with that. Not so much the tap itself.....more the manner in how and where the pipe is secured. 

On the Duetto it's held in place by a sprung U clip/clamp fitted under sill and facing away from you. Removing the pipe from the clamp is relatively easy, but re-fitting it back involves a lot of guesswork, fiddling, feeling and luck before it clips back in as you're working "blind". On occasions i've had to get down on the ground to get mine back in. I cannot kneel as both my knees and legs are pretty bad now with worsening arthritic issues. I've stuck green arrows pointing to where the clamp is to help locating the clamp but if anyone can come up with an alternative easier method of operation, i'd be interested in suggestions!
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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by sylvester1954 on Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:54 pm

AS Kingham, not even 2 years old and in France today and my waste water tap has snapped off at the tank end...very brittle. Annoying is the fact that this is the second flex pipe fitted as the previous one split last summer and replaced under warrenty. Slowly, very slowly falling out of love with my Kingham with these annoying little items cropping up . Really for an outlay of £50K plus.....l just cannot believe these examples of sloppy workmanship are ignored by AS who must monitor this site?
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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by Redwink on Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:11 pm

Not sure if this helps, I used a 3/4 inch full bore plumbing tap, needed to make a bracket to attach to the underside of the van, added a spairline to the bracket at the same time
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Post by logburner on Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:27 pm

At one time,(when Autosleeper built quality motor homes apparently) these things were easy to fix, and sensibly assembled.
I am amazed at the problems, and very odd so called advanced habitation systems they now employ. I'm glad, In a way, that I can't afford one, because I would be very upset at having to sort out all this " Superior" equipment installation.  think_smiley_46
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Post by Bulletguy on Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:03 pm

sylvester1954 wrote:AS Kingham, not even 2 years old and in France today and my waste water tap has snapped off at the tank end...very brittle. Annoying is the fact that this is the second flex pipe fitted as the previous one split last summer and replaced under warrenty. Slowly, very slowly falling out of love with my Kingham with these annoying little items cropping up . Really for an outlay of £50K plus.....l just cannot believe these examples of sloppy workmanship are ignored by AS who must monitor this site?

This is totally unacceptable yet i find i'm reading an increasing amount of these kinds of posts, often involving expensive vehicles a few months old. Shoddy sloppy workmanship should now be long behind us (cannot blame worker disputes any longer) and use of cheap poor quality fitments in expensive vehicles is unforgivable. 

It begs the question.......what were manufacturers doing so successfully 20 or 30 years ago that they cannot do today?
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Re: Waste water drain tap

Post by Paramedic on Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:54 pm

The plastic drain taps on our van are functional but both hands are needed. Left to grip the body of the tap so as to prevent the whole assembly simply rotating when turning with the right to open/close. It's just a bit awkward as you have to kneel or squat and strain your neck to see what you are doing. Our previous two A/S vans the taps over a short time, simply fragmented or broke completely. By comparison, our introduction to motorhoming was an ACE Milano and both taps were  metal, large bore type with a red on/off lever.

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Post by Bulletguy on Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:41 am

Paramedic wrote:The plastic drain taps on our van are functional but both hands are needed. Left to grip the body of the tap so as to prevent the whole assembly simply rotating when turning with the right to open/close. It's just a bit awkward as you have to kneel or squat and strain your neck to see what you are doing. Our previous two A/S vans the taps over a short time, simply fragmented or broke completely. By comparison, our introduction to motorhoming was an ACE Milano and both taps were  metal, large bore type with a red on/off lever.

That's the problem i have with mine. Kneeling on ground is out altogether (too painful) and squatting is possible but still difficult.

Regards taps fragmenting and breaking off, i don't know how old my waste tap is but i've had my van almost 7 years now and that tap is ok. I replaced the fresh water tank tap three years ago with a new one as that was leaking. That's still fine and ok. From Sylvesters post i can only assume manufacturers must be fitting the cheapest junk they can bulk buy when building new vans now which given the exorbitant total retail prices is inexcusable.
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