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Post by Celticbiker on Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:40 pm

We have been away for over a week now and stayed at several sites throughout England and Scotland but when we tried to book a site near Peterborough we were met with accusation and abuse because we only wanted one night and we are in a van and not a caravan.
We were told "I don't like people who only want to stay one night in a van, I don't like people who wild camp then come to my site for one night and abuse the facilities fill up with water and leave. If you can prove to me you aren't like that then I'll let you stay for a night"

The site was The Paddock LE15 8RN
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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by Paulmold on Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:56 pm

Well that's one to be avoided then, no matter how long I may want to stay.

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Post by Jaytee on Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:47 pm

Wow, what a way to run a business.  shrugg Crossed that one off my list as well.

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Post by rogerblack on Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:59 pm

This is a Camping & Caravanning Club Certificated Site - assuming you are a member, would it be worth making a formal complaint that you were turned away even though they had space?

Although I believe they have a similar policy, not accepting one night bookings at weekends on some of their Club sites, don't they?
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Post by mikethebike on Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:12 am

Hi, got me worried,i live near a campsite.
However that one is Oakham a Leicester postmark.

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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by Jaytee on Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:11 am

rogerblack wrote:This is a Camping & Caravanning Club Certificated Site - assuming you are a member, would it be worth making a formal complaint that you were turned away even though they had space?

Although I believe they have a similar policy, not accepting one night bookings at weekends on some of their Club sites, don't they?
I think not allowing the one night only booking for weekends during the busy season is fair as they would loose a full weekends business. This site sounds like a real dream though. NOT.

Def worth a complaint to C&CC.

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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by Celticbiker on Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:42 am

Yes, I am a member and will be complaining about it.
Thing is though, I was trying to book  for a Thursday night not a weekend. 
It wasn't that he didn't want to book us for one night that was annoying, it was the suggestion that anyone in a van just wants to abuse his facilities. 
The wife is still seething about his attitude this morning.
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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by Jaytee on Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:26 am

Sorry, yes I realised yours wasn't a weekend booking. I would also be seething, trouble is nowadays I seeth rather too easily  Whistle1

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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by modelman on Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:04 am

If you are PAYING (the clue is in the name)for a one -night stay, how the  censored! can you

'abuse the facilities fill up with water and leave'

Was this guy's name Basil Fawlty by any chance??

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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by RML on Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:30 pm

This is why I prefer to spend as much tine abroad as possible.  This country is not motorhome friendly and never will be, consequently I'll continue to take my money over the channel to spend.
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Hmmmm................

Post by Tommy-Darcy on Mon May 12, 2014 8:38 am

RML wrote:This is why I prefer to spend as much tine abroad as possible.  This country is not motorhome friendly and never will be, consequently I'll continue to take my money over the channel to spend.
Rich..  smile!

Please don't tar us all with the same brush.......... tap_fingers  We welcome all here at Harrogate Caravan Park whether staying for just 1 or 7 nights. Obviously there may be certain conditions during bank holidays and peak season but NOT mid week.

On our coastal tour of BRITAIN last year in our Duetto (van) we did not encounter any such hostility, so I would take it that the site in question is in a minority of unfriendly sites who obviously prefer long stays !

Going abroad is a very popular choice as they are obviously more motorhome friendly, but believe me anyone deciding not to tour Britain just because of this is missing out....................!!!

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Post by Celticbiker on Mon May 12, 2014 9:24 am

Point well made Mr Darcy.
I should have made the point that this is an exception. We have never encountered anything but courtesy before.
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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by RML on Mon May 12, 2014 11:45 pm

What I am saying, without inflaming passions because I appreciate your fraternal friendship; En France - if you want to go to the the coast there's an aire, if you want to visit a chateau there's an aire, if you want to visit a theme park there's an aire, if you want to visit a city there's an aire - sometimes but not always without cost; can the same be said for the UK?  We're just pricing up a 2 week break in June - return ferry crossing to France (approx prices) £80-180, 1 tank diesel for 600 miles £100, cost of aires often nothing to 10 euros per night, and no advanced site booking required and no danger of being moved on.  While I would like to support the UK, in my opinion, it will never match France for cost and convenience while owning a MH.
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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by roli on Tue May 13, 2014 5:33 am

You are quite right Rich..   
We have holidayed in France for years upto last year when health has put a stop to. 
 
But there were more savings to be had Ferry/Train costs - Nil (used Tesco points saved during the year) So that elimates any costs on crossing the channel.

If you need to use sites there is often a discount scheme such as ACSI and Camping Cheques although the latter has been in decline over the last few years its still available.

Another thing - weather !

For now I am confined to the UK, but upto now this year weather hasnt been that bad when we have been away

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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by mikethebike on Tue May 13, 2014 7:10 am

Hi ,I think this is a storm in a teacup. One site in the UK where the site owner had an off day for what ever reason.
Lets carry on as normal.

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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by Jaytee on Tue May 13, 2014 7:40 am

As a new MH owner all this is good info  up! 

And sadly as I have found with my six month ownership, UK doesn't like MH's.
Just trying to find somewhere to park up us hassle  censored! 

Sorry off topic  biggrin

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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by RML on Tue May 13, 2014 7:51 am

Mike, you're absolutely right, I'm not knocking UK sites as we are CC members and most are very good and compare well to those over the water.
My point was about using a campervan for it's intended purpose of itinerant travelling using onboard facilities with the liberty to go wherever the map falls open without looking over ones shoulder when parking or searching out a service point - on this France wins hands down.
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Re: Well there's a fine how do you do

Post by boxerman on Tue May 13, 2014 8:02 am

Jaytee wrote:
And sadly as I have found with my six month ownership, UK doesn't like MH's.
Just trying to find somewhere to park up us hassle  censored! 

In my 15+ years of motorhoming I haven't found it to be a problem. Which of us is right?

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Post by mikethebike on Tue May 13, 2014 8:15 am

Hi well being even handed, i think some of our problems with parking ,is due to restrictions imposed to control a certain traveller that are known to just arrive en mass and make a mess.

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Post by Jaytee on Tue May 13, 2014 8:27 am

I would expect it is you Frank  up! and yes the 'travellers' do have rather a lot to answer for.

I think as my experience grows parking will become easier.

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Post by boxerman on Tue May 13, 2014 9:34 am

Jaytee wrote: yes the 'travellers' do have rather a lot to answer for.
When we were in Ireland a few years ago, I complained in a tourist office that all the picnic areas on the North East coast had height barriers.I was told that this was to deter travellers who arrived and took them over for weeks at a time. The lady then told me that it doesn't work as the travellers now (then) used petrol angle grinders to cut the barriers off! (and probably sell them for scrap)

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Post by Paulmold on Tue May 13, 2014 10:24 am

I think the difference between Frank and Jaytee is size. A Symphony at 5.3m long will fit easily in a standard car park space, so it's just height barriers that cause a problem. A Winchcombe at just under 7.3m long is always going to be a problem in a car park, unless you are able to use a coach bay or as with our local council, buy two tickets if you take up two spaces. If you can plan in advance, this website is a mine of information and Graham who runs it works hard to keep it up to date.

http://www.motorhomeparking.co.uk/
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Post by rogerblack on Tue May 13, 2014 10:51 am

Deterring travellers is the standard excuse for height barriers here in the UK. It's interesting how you can travel throughout France where you would imagine the Aires would be a target for 'travellers' but so far I've not seen any being occupied by them.

Some friends who live in France told us they did have some descend on a local open space once.  The mayor issued an instruction to the local police chief to have his patrol cars 'test' their sirens whilst passing by every half-hour or so during the middle of the night. 
                  police 

The 'travellers' left after two days.

Here of course this would be considered an infringement of their ooman rights. Perhaps one day we'll take on board the rights of the majority, rather than all the minority groups.  But I won't hold my breath ...
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Post by Jaytee on Tue May 13, 2014 11:09 am

rogerblack wrote:

Here of course this would be considered an infringement of their ooman rights. Perhaps one day we'll take on board the rights of the majority, rather than all the minority groups.  But I won't hold my breath ...
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Post by boxerman on Tue May 13, 2014 12:31 pm

Paulmold wrote: If you can plan in advance, this website is a mine of information and Graham who runs it works hard to keep it up to date.

http://www.motorhomeparking.co.uk/
Thanks Paul - I'd forgotten about that site.
Interesting piece, relevent to this thread here:
http://www.motorhomeparking.co.uk/aires.htm

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